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You guys can read some reviews on the penguin page. Hopefully soon all the magazines will be publishing the reviews and I can post them.

Best,

Six
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Can you provide a link?
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On 2012-10-27 14:19, pegasus wrote:
Can you provide a link?


Juxtaposition by Devonte

http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S14693
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Thanks. I was a letter out in the search field. Duh
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Mediocre reviews and quite right complaining that nothing is supplied other than a few mins on a DVD. it should be a download. Too expensive IMO that's why I haven't purchased.

My recommendation? If it has to be DVD then supply the decks. Or make this a download. This is very expensive in the UK, and it needn't be.
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On 2012-10-27 15:17, pegasus wrote:
Mediocre reviews and quite right complaining that nothing is supplied other than a few mins on a DVD. it should be a download. Too expensive IMO that's why I haven't purchased.

My recommendation? If it has to be DVD then supply the decks. Or make this a download. This is very expensive in the UK, and it needn't be.


Hey Pegasus Smile

I thought the reviews were good, minus the "Larry Horayne" which is just fishy all together lol Its not a few minutes on the dvd, its at least a half hour. Not sure what more would be needed.

The reason we did not include the cards were this.. 1) Playing cards arent cheap. That would at the minimum add $4 to the price tag and production cost if not more. 2)Shipping would be expensive, now release we have to order the cards, the time to arrange over a 2000 decks of cards to go with each dvd and then shipping to Murphys Magic, then Murphys has there cost of shipping to there stores. 3) Including cards would make packaging cost more expensive as well. 4) We can sell the decks as a trick without a dvd just a page write up, then we would sell none. People want DVD isn'truction. 5) Downloads would be extremely expensive on our end, considering we are a new magic company with no customer base. Theory 11 doesn't need nor go through murphys magic because they have a fan base they built over years. In the future it would make it easier, unfortunately we havent been blessed witht that oppertunity yet. 6) Our investment before we even sell anything would then be at around $6000. Production cost, design, printing, cards, and packaging.

Unfortunately it is not in our hands but how the magic market works. The trick with cards would have to run around 40-50 bucks, which would be crazy when you can use the cards you have around your house. The trick uses completely normal cards, and I cant think of any trick that supplies you with normal cards. Its almost like saying pressure is a bad trick because you don't get balloons.

Now I don't say these things to put you down or your opinion down in anyway what so ever. I mention all of this because I learned so much off this one dvd that I truly did not even begin to imagine with the business end of putting out a dvd. I think its importan for everyone to learn to just have an understanding of our market as magicians.

It also comes down to perceived value. We had a trade show magician from Florida call us and thank us, how it was great for him and how perfect it was for his trade show. To him $30 is nothing for what he gains. Im releasing a bill effect of mine, which is an incredible working effect for me, and gives the spectator a souvenior unlike anything in magic. Yet, it is not the easiest effect to put together. For performers its a miracle though. Yet, deciding how to package it is tough because of all the little details. I have many people asking me for it though, so I guess we cant please everyone. Which is bad because those who done see use for it, will put it down just because its not there style. Unlike clothing were people just ignore whats not there style because they know its for some one else. I think the "Larry" fellow fell into that catergory. It wasnt for him so he puts it down, is that fair..I don't think so, but what can we do.

I see your trouble though, as it was hard to obtain in the U.K. Unfortunately, we don't have a U.K base yet, but I am personally working on it. There are magic shops that do carry them now. It is a bit more expensive, because again shipping kills everyone. System 6 want to offer soem of the best shipping in the business and we plan too, it just takes time to learn and figure out what is best for everyone.

If your a fan of penguin and I am for sure. They give some free shipping options and sell the dvd at the same price as us now. $22 - which again was another learning experience in itself!

I hope this all just helps clear up why we didn't give away free playing cards with the DVD and what not. Plus, just lets the consumer learn about the market itself. I think that's important...I learn something new everyday.

Thanks,

Mike
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I agree now with hindsight, that it would be completely wrong to include 2 normal decks that everyone has anyway. I'm just not willing to pay 25 ish GBP for a one trick DVD. And cheapo postal service from the US literally takes forever, if at all, to arrive thru the door.

In fact merchant of magic selling this on eBay for 29 pounds. Although this magic website is probably the most expensive in the UK.
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This caught my eye:

"a great rendition of a Classic, absolutely brilliant"
- Doug Edwards

Doug's got quiet the reputation as a creator and doesn't endorse very much. So, I'm in.
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We launched the full performance a few weeks ago. Sorry, I forgot to share it here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wva6bYy-X0A

Enjoy!
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So smart, great performance, all around awesome!

billy

p.s. I will be buying the effect
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Hiya Gang!

I just reviewed this for Magic Friday...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h94Kell83Fo

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On 2013-05-13 12:58, Jamie D. Grant wrote:
Hiya Gang!

I just reviewed this for Magic Friday...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h94Kell83Fo

Your pal,

jamie



Yay, System 6 Magic is 2 for 2 with Jamie! Thanks for the review, enjoyed it and just sent it to Devonte.

We have a few copies left and agreed there will be no second printing on this. :-X Devonte likes to keep things sorta exclusive.

As always, Free Shipping

http://www.system6magic.com/collections/......e-rosero

Well wishes,

Six
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On 2012-10-27 15:17, pegasus wrote:
Mediocre reviews and quite right complaining that nothing is supplied other than a few mins on a DVD. it should be a download. Too expensive IMO that's why I haven't purchased.

My recommendation? If it has to be DVD then supply the decks. Or make this a download. This is very expensive in the UK, and it needn't be.


Well this effect got pretty much slammed on the WPR and for 29 pounds, boy am I glad I never ordered this.
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On 2012-10-27 15:17, pegasus wrote:
Mediocre reviews and quite right complaining that nothing is supplied other than a few mins on a DVD. it should be a download. Too expensive IMO that's why I haven't purchased.

My recommendation? If it has to be DVD then supply the decks. Or make this a download. This is very expensive in the UK, and it needn't be.


Well this effect got pretty much slammed on the WPR and for 29 pounds, boy am I glad I never ordered this.


Think is just wasnt there style..I still closed 4F with it regardless and it killed. To each there own, nothing wrong with that. Also got a great review in Magic this month! Smile
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I read the review and ordered it. I am glad I did. I don't do much with cards, calloused hands, this looks amazing. I am a Amateur so I have only performed it four or five times, but great reactions every time.
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I read the review and ordered it. I am glad I did. I don't do much with cards, calloused hands, this looks amazing. I am a Amateur so I have only performed it four or five times, but great reactions every time.
David


David, that's awesome to hear! Glad its working out perfectly for you!!!
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I JUST JUMPED IN
Devonte performeD his effect at the magic castle and blew his audience away\
sorry I did not read thread this long post...
this is a real world worker
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Not so sure about the positive reviews. I have tried it a few times. In theory, it seems pretty good but it has a few 'holes' and is not as clean as I would like. There are a few areas where it can lose the 'magic'. PM me so I can explain.
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