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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts 
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On 2012-08-31 12:51, Slide wrote: You need not accuse yourseslf we already knew. But thanks for the admission.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On 2012-08-31 14:19, Tony Clifton wrote: When I first stared in business I did carry some cash that had to be deposited. But those days are gone and I really don't handle the receipts from the businesses any more it is all done for me. The only monies I still collect and actually enjoy collecting are the rents from my first investment properties and the pool rooms which I collect myself. The pool rooms are great as it is strictly a cash business. I have 14 family rentals and I watch these as this is where it all started along with the pool rooms. Now I am a little more spread out and do not have the time other than to manage other interests. However I have carried for over 40 some years now and cannot see myself changing. It is part of my wardrobe. I only carry concealed.
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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Surely that's not possible. if you'd been carrying a gun for that long, you would have killed a bunch of innocent people by now.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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RobertSmith Veteran user 330 Posts
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On 2012-08-31 20:24, LobowolfXXX wrote: He has. At least a dozen. I'm sure ed rhodes and Payne have proof they just won't show it. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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I have never known any women muderers but I have known men who have been paid by women to muder men. I know three men who were paid by the wife to beat her husband, as he had beat her and when they did so and left, she killed him with a knife and said it was them. They were convicted of murder and she got away with it. I have known many muderers as I was a "listener" in court which is someone who listens to people who have just been convicted and may be thinking of killing themself more or less. There were few who had killed using a gun to do so. Many of then were someting to do with women and many had killed their women. I got to know many murderers in an open prison, where every murderer ends up if he is going to be released at the end of their sentence. The only fellow I recall knowing who went nuts with a gun was a guy who shot some people next door to him, who were having a party, he told them to turn the noise down and they never. I don't think he killed more than one but shot every one. According to him he did not own the gun and said it was his dads. I know a women who was having an affair with a cop, whos job it was to train cops to shoot etc and they, the women and the cop, tried to hire a hit maan to shot the husband. The hit man went to cops and ratted them out. Women can cause men to go nuts I guess.
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts
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On 2012-08-31 20:24, LobowolfXXX wrote: :)
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts
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I must look like a thug because three women have, over the years, asked me to kill spouses for them. I just assume they are kidding and leave never to return.
Guns will never go away in this country and you need to choose your battles. I would think most people with carry permits are fine and will never cross the line. In thinking about it I know two people who accidentally shot others. Once was a case of a .22 getting ready to be cleaned and it firing and hitting a fellow in the arse, make it three times. Another was the same type thing only the guy shot himself in the foot with a .22 pistol. That was interesting because the police had to fire to check ballistics because the gun was shot in city limits and in doing so the police repaired the gun to better condition before it was dropped and gave it back to the owner. The last was sad. A coworkers son was shot by a .357 and while hurt and hospitalized he became kind of a hero at school for being shot. The story at the time was the boys father had taken the gun out of the safe and accidentally shot the boy. The father did go to jail for it for a few months. The husband had a stroke a couple years later and after passing away the wife told me that what really happened was her two boys got into the safe, the father carried the numbers in his wallet and they stole it, and the one boy shot the other while playing. The father didn't want the boy to be in trouble so he took the rap. Guns are deadly but so are so many other things. I am far more concerned with texters and drunk drivers than anyone with a carry permit. |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts
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On 2012-08-31 21:02, RobertSmith wrote: I notice I'm getting general digs now with no attempt to address my posts.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Well I know a young fellow who accidentally shot someone with a gun. I have never met a nicer lad, he had the most impeccable manners, was real funny kid and he was such a meek and mild lad, well you just would not think he would do what he did. He owed some money to a big nasty guy. He had borrowed the money the money to buy a stall at market to sell fruit and veg. He went to talk about the debt with the big man. The young fellow took a gun to the meet for his own protection, as I think he was scared. They were sitting at a table talking it over when the big guy stated to get bit nasty and threated the kid. The kid pulled his gun out, but in doing so the gun it hit the bottom of the table top and it went off and the big fellow caught a bullet in his leg. Oh sorry, the kid said, I didn't mean to shot you. The big guy then stood up and dropped dead. The kid was convicted of murder. I guess that is the sort of thing that Ed is talking about happening. Perhaps?
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RobertSmith Veteran user 330 Posts
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On 2012-09-01 08:24, tommy wrote: No. That's not what Ed is talking about. Ed is talking about someone with a concealed carry permit shooting someone accidentally while responding to a shooting. However, the bar has been lowered multiple times to keep up with his falling standards in these two gun discussions. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Well what happened next was someone with a concealed carry permit shot someone accidentally while responding to this shooting.
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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"I must look like a thug because three women have, over the years, asked me to kill spouses for them. I just assume they are kidding and leave never to return. "
Jesus...where the hell do you live? |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16543 Posts
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Heaven
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2889 Posts
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On 2012-09-01 09:51, RobertSmith wrote: Yes. My original point was that someone minimally trained, with a concealed carry permit, would be more of a liability in an actual firefight. I have used stories that I have read over the years, one of which actually has a person, carrying a concealed weapon, who used said weapon to scare off someone who was threatening him. Then he ruined his case by firing at the person as he was running away and firing across a busy street. (Luckily, no one was hurt.) Upon being arrested, he was astounded to discover that "self defense" does not cover shooting at someone who's running away from you. I have read countless stories of people doing stupid things with guns. It concerns me that these people would be carrying concealed weapons around.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Slide Special user 533 Posts
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"Heaven"
We have different concepts. Your concept seems to more like my concept of the other place. |
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rowdymagi5 Inner circle Virginia 3624 Posts
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The stories of CCW holders saving lives outnumbers lives lost by 5 to 1.
So if you are advocating that CCW holders are dangerous and should not be allowed, you essentially are wanting more people to die. |
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Payne Inner circle Seattle 4571 Posts
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According to this study you are more likely to be killed or wounded if you are carrying a gun than you would be if completely unarmed.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17......led.html So it appears that ccw holders are more dangerous to themselves than unarmed people.
"America's Foremost Satirical Magician" -- Jeff McBride.
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts
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I am glad you did not say a "scientific" study- this just does not seem to be at all credible... "newscientist" tag notwithstanding...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts
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Once was in Boston when I was offered money to kill a couples son in law who had deserted their daughter. The other was in Seattle by a woman who was abused badly by her husband as well were her children. He is alive and well I assume but he was persuaded not to keep the wife and kids from leaving the state. The last was just some chick in central California.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts
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On 2012-09-01 18:13, Payne wrote: "We don't have an answer as to whether guns are protective or perilous," Branas says. "This study is a beginning."
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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