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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts |
Americans have always rated as more productive. My dad worked in Japan for years and said once they got going they were fine, it was the getting them going that was often a problem.
Japanese do good work, they are one of the many cultures where you work for one company your entire life and if you lose your job and not young you are likely not going to get a new one. Their honor system is interesting. My sister works at Fujitsu and a Japanese national was in a car accident and was so shamed he returned to Japan. A Japanese rep came and picked up product for an important customer in Tokyo and the product was stolen (it was in a briefcase and lifted at the bar in the airport at San Francisco) and rather than going back and just getting more product and saying what happened he flew back to Japan to confess his loss to superiors. Nice people. |
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
Quote: No, you just have to be better than eighty persent of the people.On 2012-09-02 11:45, LobowolfXXX wrote:
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
Quote: Send them to me Pop. I'll show them how to "find the honey and double their money".On 2012-08-31 15:26, Pop Haydn wrote:
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
“When a man tells you that he got rich through hard work, ask him: 'Whose'?”
― Don Marquis
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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acesover Special user I believe I have 821 Posts |
It has a lot to do with what you do with your disposable income. Disposable income. Many will say I don't have any. For some this is probably ture. However for some while it may be true it is because it is their fault. They got a job. Good start. Then it went downhill. They went out and bought or leased a new car with payments upwards of $450/ month. They have the newest and greatest ipad along with a cellphone that you can even make calls on besides all of the other stuff. However have you checked what they cost to purchse and maintain per month. You can get by on a cell phone that calls people for 40/month. But that is not what they want. They want instant grataification. I didn't even get into the internet or preminum TV channels. Well sorry to say it does not work that way. Alsoanother tip. Don't eat out every night,not even at McDonalds. It is expensive. Very expensive. You will have time for this when you become somewhat more sucessful and will be able to afford it. And I don't mean McDonalds.
These same people want at least two or 3 pair of $125 sneaks and all the nice label clothes they believe they are entitled too. So they charge them. compounding their problem. First they have a lot of toys they do not need when starting out. Second they get a charge card that buries them in interest. Yet they all keep saying I work 40 hours a week and I can't make ends meet I only make $18 and hour. Don't misunderstand me. It is next to impossible to get along with out some form of credit today...but wach what you charge and why. While definitelhy not a kings ransom $18/hour is nothing to sneeze at because many people do not make that much. I only use the $18 number as a number it can be $12 an hour. Learn to budget yourself and get on your feet. Creep before you crawl, crawl before you walk, walk before you run. Give it a little time. Because time is your biggest asset. Your time is valuable. Do something with it. Of course not all work and not play. Just be reasonable. you can splurge later if you have people workingfor you and you are making money from each one of them. So where did they go wrong. they don't need a 450 car payenbt for the next 6byears. they don't need a cell phone bill that costs them $200 per month including the phone and they don't need the newest ipad and the name brand clothes. What they need is control over their ecxpenses so they can have disposable income to possibly invest or take a chance at a business venture. Lets say they get a car that gets them to work and a cell phone that they can call people on and clothes that are stylish but don't cost $125 for a pair of sneaks and the next neat sports outfits that are so overpriced that it is nuts. They can easily save $300/ month. Do it for 3 years and you have closeto $12,000 to invest and you are just starting out. Do you have the balls to invest it and take a chance of losing it? Many here seem to think that if you have money it just keeps on growing. Not so. You must make good decisions. Do you try the market, futures, invest in a small business of sorts? But lets face something here. Whatever you do I tis not going to work if you think you are going to do it with only 40 hours a week especially when starting out. Are you skilled in any profession that you can do as a sideline and perhaps let it grow and turn it into a full time career? Can you do lawnwork and do a better job than all of those other guys out there or offer beter service and perhaps after a while hire someone to work for you. Because if you intend to become truly well off you have to have people work for you and not do all the work yourself. But don't expect this overnight. Can you purchase a property that is rundown and fix it up and either resell it or rent it out. Property investment has great leverage. I can go on and on but all I am saying is that if you want to become fairly well off do something about it besides complain about how you cannot get ahead. This last bitof advice is important and criticalfor success. If you can't get ahead. Let me ask you this. What have you done differently in the last 6 months to change your situation? If the answer is nothing. Ask yourself this. Where will I be in the next 6 bmonths if I continue with this great plan?
If I were to agree with you. Then we would both be wrong. As of Apr 5, 2015 10:26 pm I have 880 posts. Used to have over 1,000
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
[quote]On 2012-09-02 15:19, S2000magician wrote:
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On 2012-09-02 14:47, Tony Clifton wrote: It's not a "racial" thing so much as a "cultural" one. The Japanese have a proverb; "Deru kugi wa utareru" which translate to; "The nail that sticks out gets pounded down." Self motivation gets you noticed which can be bad.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts |
It is cultural. There is a different mindset in different countries. You have the Chinese as a people but you have to deal with them differently in the PRC, Singapore, Taiwan ROC, and Hong Kong, they are using a different play book. The approach to the Japanese is completely different as well. You have to know how to speak to them in order to get honest answers back not because they are not honest but because they have difficulty answering in the negative. People are different and if you know how they are different you are better able to deal with them.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-09-03 12:41, ed rhodes wrote: I don't know who said (or merely suggested) that it was racial; I didn't. |
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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts |
Don't tell the Japanese they are not their own race, they won't like you. I love the Japanese by the way, very hip and interesting culture with good humor.
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Jeeves lugged my purple socks out of the drawer as if he were a vegetarian fishing a caterpillar out of his salad
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-09-03 15:32, tommy wrote: Thank you, Bertie Wooster. |
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
No **** Sherlock
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts |
That is a well written line, where is it from?
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Have seen the price of a Banana?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
Tommy |
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Destiny Inner circle 1429 Posts |
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On 2012-09-01 14:34, tommy wrote: That memory is sharp Tommy and I agree with your assumption. She was also one of the mining billionaires who poured millions into an advertising campaign to stop the government introducing a tax on mining superprofits so that ordinary Australians might benefit from the enormous profits being made on OUR heritage - our minerals these billionaires are ripping out off the ground. As the media reporting of that, of her legal pursuit of her father's widow and now of her own children and various other issues has not been to her liking, she began to buy into a media company, and when it wouldn't give her seats on the board as she was not in agreement with their Charter of Editorial Independence, she embarked on a course of selling shares in a manner that would devalue the company and put it in a parlous financial position to pull them into line. |
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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts |
Hmmmmm.....I didn't know they had Republicans in Australia
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2012-09-03 14:21, S2000magician wrote: My bad. I thought "A ridiculous generalization" was a reference to racial profiling.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Tony Clifton New user oakhurst, ca. 24 Posts |
Ah heck, profiling is done all the time, only thing wrong with it is bringing it up. In this case, Ed, you were not being racist, you seem like a clear thinking fellow to me.
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S2000magician Inner circle Yorba Linda, CA 3465 Posts |
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On 2012-09-03 19:08, Tony Clifton wrote: I don't recall the specific story offhand (and am away from my library), but it's from one of the stories about Jeeves and Wooster by P. G. Wodehouse. |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I'm not an economist, but they have some pretty good science behind their "generalizations" regarding the productivity of different labor groups. I don't recall reading that there are any substantial reasons to suggest that American workers are the "hardest" or "most productive" in the world. In fact, I very seriously doubt it. Think of how many stories you've read about how many hours the average American office worker spends on the Internet. Heck, forget the stories. How many of you reading this post are at work RIGHT NOW? And what would "hardest" mean, anyway? Physically exhausting? Do Americans burn through more calories per hours at the work place than all other people on Earth? Well, if they are, they must be consuming about twice the number of calories as everyone else, because those office chairs are carrying a LOT of weight.
I'm proud to be American, because I think that our Constitution is the greatest political document ever written, and because I think that baseball is the greatest game ever invented. But my patriotism stops with RA-RA! statements like, "We're the freeist, hardest-working, best people on the planet--and we get to carry guns!" Grab a Japanese, American, German, or British worker off of an automobile assembly line and I bet they have pretty similar dedication to their work. |
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