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Laurent van Trigt
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Does anyone know what happened to Ye Olde Magick Blogge? It says on sleightly.com/blog is has been discontinued. I really loved that blog.
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Yeah: it got old.
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On 2012-09-12 06:35, Vincero wrote:
Yeah: it got old.


:lol: Nice!!
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I'm missing it. I used to visit it almost everyday to see if there was something new. I like his style and often agreed with what he wrote. I followed all his 365 project.

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He wrote me a lengthy email about it: Here it is
http://weeklymagicfailure.blogspot.de/2012/09/farewell.html
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This is sad news indeed. There are only a couple of worthwhile magic blogs left anyway, and now one of the top five bloggers stops blogging because of some sociopathic ***. It's hard to believe, what talking about magic can lead to.
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I tried commenting on the "I LOVE children" post. It wouldn't let me.
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I don't quite understand why the Mule, Roland and Andrew are all now complaining about personal attacks when they all three have blogs that are pretty much dedicated to making such attacks. Google "Steven Youell Magic" and see what happens. It used to be that over six pages of "The Weekly Magic Failure" showed up, telling people how I suck as a Magician.

How's that for affecting a guy's living?

Certainly I've committed my share of personal attacks, but at the very least, I have not dedicated a blog to them. And it's always been with someone I've had a dispute with. This is the last time I'll post regarding this subject. I just wanted to share my perspective.

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It always disturbed me how personal people act in the relative security (and often anonymity) of the internet. It is one thing to spit out an insult in a face to face situation, but leaving such marks on the internet for all to be seen is a completely different level.

I really enjoyed reading Ye Olde Magick Blogge (and I still enjoy reading several other blogs) but true as hell some of their posts left me disturbed. But then again this is not only restricted to blogs - sadly this keeps happening here on the café as well. So many topics which I abandoned reading because of the personal disgusting level of interaction...

Well - all I can say is that I hope everybody will move on and this will be just another piece of the internets weird history. And maybe those blogs will get back to discuss old books, effects, handlings, ideas...

All the best,
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See, this is exactly the reason that I stay away from card tricks.
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Hahahahaa Devious!

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On 2012-09-12 12:54, Devious wrote:
See, this is exactly the reason that I stay away from card tricks.


You always know how to break the pattern with some levity.

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On 2012-09-12 11:48, Steven Youell wrote:
I don't quite understand why the Mule, Roland and Andrew are all now complaining about personal attacks when they all three have blogs that are pretty much dedicated to making such attacks.


I'm a reader of those blogs pretty much from the outset. It is simply not true, that any of the above mentioned blogs are "dedicated" to making personal attacks. They are certainly critical, biting, at times opinionated and harsh but it's also very clear that all three bloggers do care deeply about magic. They offer informed opinions and they have a comment section, which allows readers to offer their opinions. You may agree or disagree or simply ignore what they say. But neither Roland, Andrew or the Mule ever crossed the line and spread blatant lies, false accusations or worse.

This Jerry Lukins person, whoever he is, has crossed the line by a mile. It is disgusting, to say the least.
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I loved those blogs, because they helped me think critically over much of my magic. It offered theories not found in any book on magic.
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"They are certainly critical, biting...and harsh..."


"...neither Roland, Andrew or the Mule ever crossed the line and spread blatant lies, false accusations or worse."


When you've got the former, the latter doesn't really matter to someone who wants to even a score. Frankly, I'm surprised we don't hear about this kind of thing much more often than we do. If one is going to be critical, biting and harsh, someone will eventually come along who will bite back, and won't be too concerned with where and how he takes that bite.
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The thing is, many people have left insulting comments on Andrew's, Roland's and Mule's blogs. The comments get printed and responded to. Many people on this forum have been fairly ***ing of Andrew in particular. Often, his performance videos have been chewed up and spat out. That is fair criticism. Just as what Andrew wrote is fair criticism. I'm not saying I agree with any of it.

Whoever the author is, perhaps they could take that post down? The one that insinuates sex acts with minors? No class at all.
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On 2012-09-12 15:31, cirrus wrote:
I loved those blogs, because they helped me think critically over much of my magic. It offered theories not found in any book on magic.


+1!!!

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On 2012-09-12 11:48, Steven Youell wrote:
I don't quite understand why the Mule, Roland and Andrew are all now complaining about personal attacks when they all three have blogs that are pretty much dedicated to making such attacks. Google "Steven Youell Magic" and see what happens. It used to be that over six pages of "The Weekly Magic Failure" showed up, telling people how I suck as a Magician.

How's that for affecting a guy's living?

Certainly I've committed my share of personal attacks, but at the very least, I have not dedicated a blog to them. And it's always been with someone I've had a dispute with. This is the last time I'll post regarding this subject. I just wanted to share my perspective.

SEY


I did the Google search as Steven suggested and sure enough, the first two Google entries were indeed from Roland Hennings' blog. Considering the niche nature of magic and how meta-tagging works in search engines, this was no accident, and no, MILLIONS of people do not read Roland Hennings' blog. I visited there TWICE and all I read was vitriol. So many magic failures listed there. Why Roland? For you and for the mods I write here and now for the record that this is NOT a flame. It IS however a question that needs to be asked: Why are you doing this and whyb are certain people singled out? Basing my hypothesis again on Google meta tags and the amount of subscribers to your site as oppsed to a mainstream site such as IMDb.com, I found something interesting: As I said, I did the Google search on Steven Youell and the top two searcgh returns were the WMF entries from December 2009 and June 2012. When I used the SAME terms but substituted Shawn Farquhar's name - and bear in mind that he is listed as a WMF on yoiur site, the top entries do not link to your site but to Shawn's! The WMF entry occurs near the very end of the page. A search on Harry Lorayne reveals that HIS WMF entry occurs THIRD on the first Google search result. Seems like Youell and Loryane are targets Roland. Why? I read the entries and also your rubric for what constitues a WMF. To your credit you even listed yourself as a "Meany." You state, "Most of the Weekly Magic Failures are not awarded for being bad. Mostly for being liars, cheaters, cowards, schmucks, stinkers and that sort of stuff. (Hell, I awarded myself for being a Meany) So Shawn basically got the title WMF for being cheap. "What caught my eye was the term "liar." Bear with me please? You ALSO stated (concerning Steven Youell), "But that is not the reason he was awarded the awesome title WMF. No he got it because of his behaviour on the magic café. The owner of the magic café Steve Brooks is a good friend of Steven Youell. And that gives him certain powers. Editing powers. Steven Youell denied that in a few conversations I had with him. But I do not believe him. I heard so many first hand stories of friends of mine, of threads disappearing or being closed with Youell having the last word." Really Roland? You are essentially stating that "first hand conversations" lead to the "fact" that Youell has ëditing powers?" Loose lips sink ships I believe was the World War II term in America. But you state you have screenshots of Youell and PMs: "And he sends out private messages threatening other users not to mess with the mighty Steven Youell. (I have screenshots to back that up)" If that is true Roland, why have you not posted the screenshots. Ahh but therein lies another problem: Of what value is a screenshot of words? I think you would agree that such can be altered. But giving you the benefit of the ddoubt, you have made a very serious accusation yet provide nothing more than anecdotal proof. Respectfully submitted but it doesn't bode well for YOUR veracity and its relationship to the very rubric you established on your blog.

Have you ALSO considered that the sharing of Private Messages that are NOT yours but come from others may ALSO be untruths?

I watched your performances from Focus and your technique is fine Roland. But why the viriol? What has entitled you to police and possibly slander others? Yes it is your own playground, BUT, The Café is not.

So I ask again Roland, and RESPECTFULLY (caps for emphasis) why are you doing this? What purpose does it serve?

I realize that I may get banned for this or that this post may be deleted. If that is the case, then the moderators have that right of course.

Namaste,
Vlad
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telling people how I suck as a Magician.


Being accused of sucking at magic tricks in no way, shape, or form compares to being accused of pedophilia. Why such an important clarification was scrubbed from this thread is beyond me.
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