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drhowell New user Cookeville, TN 29 Posts |
I was wondering if anyone knows of alternative handlings similar to this effect as published in Fulves' More Self-Working Card Tricks (pp. 16-18). I like the idea of the spectator being able to lie to the magician, but the cards still come up correctly.
Thanks in advance, Cliff |
landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
Look at the nick trost effect discussed here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=205&15
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drhowell New user Cookeville, TN 29 Posts |
Landmark,
Thanks for the reference. I'm not familiar with the Trost effect, but based on the descriptions in the other thread, it sounds exactly like the effect published in Fulves except that there is very little setup in the Fulves version. Someone mentioned 'extensive' setup with the Trost version, so I'm guessing it relies on Si Stebbins or something of that nature. How would you compare the two versions from the perspective of the spectator? Cliff |
Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Simon Aronson describes a "lie detector" routine in Bound To Please.
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drhowell New user Cookeville, TN 29 Posts |
Woland,
Thanks for the tip. Is the effect similar to the one described in Fulves' book? Cliff |
Vlad_77 Inner circle The Netherlands 5829 Posts |
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On 2012-09-19 17:24, drhowell wrote: I need to look up the Fulves effect sometime, but, if it's a lie detector spelling effect try Harry Lorayne's Spelligant. It is FASDIU, and the spec can lie and the effect works and the method is dead easy. |
Woland Special user 680 Posts |
Hi Cliff,
Simon Aronson's "Lie Sleuth" is a more complex effect than Karl Fulves's "To Lie or Tell the Truth." - In the Fulves effect, the performer arranges the deck so that it becomes a "lie detector" after ascertaining the spectator's selection, and then spells out the answers to a series of questions in order to arrive at the answer. In Aronson's effect, which is difficult for me to describe without completely giving the original text, you will need to have completely mastered a memorized stack, and then after the spectator's selection is removed (without being looked at, and then pocketed by the spectator) and two halves of the deck faro'd together, the spectator deals the cards one by one, calling them out either correctly or lying, and the performer, without looking of course, identifies the truth or falsity of each card being identified. Finally, after the performer's ability to detect lies and truth has been established, the spectator is asked to look at the card that was removed, and the performer identifies it. Woland |
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