The Magic Café
Username:
Password:
[ Lost Password ]
  [ Forgot Username ]
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Shuffled not Stirred » » To Lie or Tell the Truth (0 Likes) Printer Friendly Version

drhowell
View Profile
New user
Cookeville, TN
29 Posts

Profile of drhowell
I was wondering if anyone knows of alternative handlings similar to this effect as published in Fulves' More Self-Working Card Tricks (pp. 16-18). I like the idea of the spectator being able to lie to the magician, but the cards still come up correctly.

Thanks in advance,
Cliff
landmark
View Profile
Inner circle
within a triangle
5121 Posts

Profile of landmark
Look at the nick trost effect discussed here:
http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......m=205&15
drhowell
View Profile
New user
Cookeville, TN
29 Posts

Profile of drhowell
Landmark,

Thanks for the reference. I'm not familiar with the Trost effect, but based on the descriptions in the other thread, it sounds exactly like the effect published in Fulves except that there is very little setup in the Fulves version. Someone mentioned 'extensive' setup with the Trost version, so I'm guessing it relies on Si Stebbins or something of that nature.

How would you compare the two versions from the perspective of the spectator?

Cliff
Woland
View Profile
Special user
680 Posts

Profile of Woland
Simon Aronson describes a "lie detector" routine in Bound To Please.
drhowell
View Profile
New user
Cookeville, TN
29 Posts

Profile of drhowell
Woland,

Thanks for the tip. Is the effect similar to the one described in Fulves' book?

Cliff
Vlad_77
View Profile
Inner circle
The Netherlands
5829 Posts

Profile of Vlad_77
Quote:
On 2012-09-19 17:24, drhowell wrote:
I was wondering if anyone knows of alternative handlings similar to this effect as published in Fulves' More Self-Working Card Tricks (pp. 16-18). I like the idea of the spectator being able to lie to the magician, but the cards still come up correctly.

Thanks in advance,
Cliff


I need to look up the Fulves effect sometime, but, if it's a lie detector spelling effect try Harry Lorayne's Spelligant. It is FASDIU, and the spec can lie and the effect works and the method is dead easy.
Woland
View Profile
Special user
680 Posts

Profile of Woland
Hi Cliff,

Simon Aronson's "Lie Sleuth" is a more complex effect than Karl Fulves's "To Lie or Tell the Truth." - In the Fulves effect, the performer arranges the deck so that it becomes a "lie detector" after ascertaining the spectator's selection, and then spells out the answers to a series of questions in order to arrive at the answer.

In Aronson's effect, which is difficult for me to describe without completely giving the original text, you will need to have completely mastered a memorized stack, and then after the spectator's selection is removed (without being looked at, and then pocketed by the spectator) and two halves of the deck faro'd together, the spectator deals the cards one by one, calling them out either correctly or lying, and the performer, without looking of course, identifies the truth or falsity of each card being identified. Finally, after the performer's ability to detect lies and truth has been established, the spectator is asked to look at the card that was removed, and the performer identifies it.

Woland
The Magic Cafe Forum Index » » Shuffled not Stirred » » To Lie or Tell the Truth (0 Likes)
[ Top of Page ]
All content & postings Copyright © 2001-2022 Steve Brooks. All Rights Reserved.
This page was created in 0.07 seconds requiring 5 database queries.
The views and comments expressed on The Magic Café
are not necessarily those of The Magic Café, Steve Brooks, or Steve Brooks Magic.
> Privacy Statement <

ROTFL Billions and billions served! ROTFL