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panlives Inner circle 2087 Posts |
<<When beggars began to turn up in droves at a local religious festival, Chinese officials came up with a rather unusual - and some say cruel - solution, a human cage:
According to a Nanchang official, in recent years the number of beggars turning up for the local religious festival has increased to a point where they’re actually making temple visitors uncomfortable with their lamenting and pleading for some pocket change. So this year, to make sure everyone attending the festivities will be left alone, they decided to separate the hundreds of beggars in small metal cages around the festival grounds, where people can still give donations if they wish, but without being followed around and nagged while they’re on a day out with their family. “The beggars are quite comfortable in their cages, people send them food and water as gifts. In a way it is better for them there than having to find a place on the busy streets,” festival organizers said.” The beggars can leave whenever they like but they have to leave the city too, they can’t go into the fair,’ they added. Human rights activists are not amused: “Do they want people to believe the region has no poor people and just put on a good show? These people need help. We should not be allowing them to be locked away in cages. These people are human beings too,” one said, while another commented “They are treating them like zoo animals. What will they have to do next – tricks for their food? This is nothing but public humiliation!”>> http://www.odditycentral.com/news/chines......ars.html
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
It makes a certain sense, to me. They enter the cages volutarily, right? I'd take my banjo with me and busk in there.
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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
It's better than exterminating them (something the Chinese have done in the past).
Maybe we should do this to Congress. Keep them caged until they really do some work for the country. Iven
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Octopus Sun Special user Wiggle Wiggle 586 Posts |
I don't see cages, I see a fenced off corridor to keep them away from the public.
wish they'd do that here in the USA to the freeway beggers holding "will work for food" signs those peeps make bank. $30.00hr for begging, no wonder so many people hit the street corners now. I still see foolish people fall for that scam, fueling drug alcohol abuse. yes I know there are a tiny few who really need the cash, but those are few and far between rarely. |
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FatHatter Regular user I'm here you're there and that's that. 137 Posts |
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On 2012-09-25 10:17, stoneunhinged wrote: :applause: |
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
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On 2012-09-25 13:45, Octopus Sun wrote: I work with the poor and homeless. They are not few and far between. Most of them go unseen, which is basically what the public wants. Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
The homeless should get a job, then they won't be homless anymore. Problem Solved!
Iven
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FatHatter Regular user I'm here you're there and that's that. 137 Posts |
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On 2012-09-26 12:48, irossall wrote: It would be nice if job equaled home. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2012-09-26 11:14, Dreadnought wrote: :thumbsup:
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I doubt anyone here has worked with the poor and homeless in China.
When I was growing up in Taiwan (NOT CHINA!), I saw things that rattled my mind. Asian culture is different. Comparing China to...say...Milwaukee, is disingenuous. And I've never been to India. I've heard stories. The point is that in places OTHER than Milwaukee, the beggars surround you, they get up in your face, they hardly let you walk down the street. And given some Eastern religious beliefs (along with some twisted caste-system beliefs), this is expected and normal. It's not begging like any of us in the Western world think of begging. It's more like...well... Street magic, David Blaine style. (OK, that was a poor joke.) The point I'm making is this: working with the poor and homeless in the USA gives one absolutely no information whatsoever regarding begging in the Asian world. |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
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On 2012-09-26 13:22, stoneunhinged wrote: I have to disagree with you. But yes, it does. I have been to Korea, not China though. I have also been to Honduras, El Salvador, Guatemala as well as Jamaica and Hati. Even though most of my work is in the Athens/Atlanta, Georgia area, I can tell you that homeless is homeless, no matter where in the world you stand. Many people say that poor in the United States is different than poor in 3rd world countries, my counter to that is tell them that. Find the woman trying to raise three children, while working two jobs, both at minimum wage and has to make the decision between utilities or rent. Tell this to the person who is about to be evicted because they can't afford rent or their home is scheduled to be torn down to make way for a condo complex in their now gentrified neighborhood. Whether the average US citizen knows it or not or just refuses to acknowledge it, they are one paycheck from a financial catastrophe. While it is true that the bottom 10% of the United States is in the upper 30% of the world, and just because the United States is one of the richest nations in the world, if not the richest - depending on where you get your information- that does not mean that everyone is rolling in wealth and good fortune. The conditions in the United States are different than say, Bangladesh but comparatively, the living conditions in the United States are just as bad for those falling below our poverty line. Maybe we should just move our poor to Bangladesh? Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
Thanks, dreadnought.
You're right: poor people are the same world-over. They're poor. Thanks for the reminder. |
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Pecan_Creek Veteran user The Nation of TEXAS! 323 Posts |
But they can fix that in the US.
It's up to them. Why don't they just start a business like a good American. They are just lazy! |
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
Quote: The poorest people in the United States live in the valley, and they all have jobs.
On 2012-09-26 16:13, Pecan_Creek wrote: I know, I've lived there.
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kambiz Inner circle Perth, down by the cool of the pool 1129 Posts |
This is sad indeed
I'm assuming (rather hoping) that Pecan is joking by saying that they are lazy. Out of the 6+ billion people on earth, 1 billion live on less than $1 per day (you can get all this info from http://www.wri.org) Another 1 billion people live on $1-2 per day. 1.8 billion have no access to clean water. 12% of the world's population uses 85% of the earth's water. 8+ million people die each year because they are too poor to stay alive. In 2005 the world's richest 500 people had a combined wealth of $1.5 trillion, that's greater than the combined GDP of all Sub-Saharan countries. About half of ALL children on earth live in destitute poverty (less than $2 per day) According to UNICEF, 30,000 children die EACH DAY due to poverty. ("they die each day, far removed from the scrutiny and conscience of the world") NOW... If, (in addition to the aid that goes to these poor countries each year) we spent $6 billion more, then everybody would receive a basic education, $9 billion more and everybody would have access to clean water and sanitation, $12 billion more, all women would have reproductive health $13 billion more, and the basic nutrition and health of everyone would be catered for. So let's see where we (so called developed countries) spend all our money on... $11 billion a year on ice cream in Europe $17 billion a year on pet food in Europe and the US $50 billion a year on cigarettes in Europe Military spending in the world? $780 billion ( and that was during a pre 9/11 peaceful year of 1998! God knows what it is now) I would be interested to hear what conclusions people make from these figures? Has the world got things right? I would also be keen to know, WHO EXACTLY ARE THE LAZY ONES?? God bless you all Kam
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2012-09-26 12:51, FatHatter wrote: There was a news report a few years back about a guy who was trying to get out being homeless. He'd gotten a job as a piano player in a bar, but was still sleeping in an alleyway a few blocks away. Took him a few months before he was able to get an apartment
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irossall Special user Snohomish, Washington 529 Posts |
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On 2012-09-26 12:51, FatHatter wrote: Work at home. Many people do. Iven
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
This fence or cage procedure would have been considered a "law of Sodom" by the authority in Vilnius, 250 years ago.
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Salguod Nairb Room 101 0 Posts |
Reminds me of the free wifi with the roaming homeless. If they are not complaining what is the issue?
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