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If you like hearing from Bob Dylan (as I do), grab the September 27 Rolling Stone while it's still available. Good thoughts from America's lifetime poet laureate. Having said that, there was a tremendously funny (to me) humor break in the middle of the interview when the interviewer (Mikal Gilmore) contorted himself like a circus act trying to get Dylan to say that criticism of President Obama is because of racism. It's seriously hilarious the way he tries (unsuccessfully) to put words in Dylan's mouth After Dylan talks in general about race relations in America, Gilmore brings up Obama. Then (with my own parenthetical annotations)...


(The first shot)
MG: "Since his election, there's been a great reaction by some against him."
BD: "They did the same thing to Bush, didn't they? They did the same thing to Clinton, too, and Jimmy Carter before that. Look what they did to Kennedy. Anybody who's going to take that job is going to be in for a rough time."

(Maybe if I prompt him a little more blatantly)
MG: "Don't you think some of the reaction has stemmed from that kind of racial resonance you were talking about?"
BD: "I don't know. I don't know, but I don't think that's the same thing. I have no idea what they are saying for or against him. I really don't. I don't know how deep it goes or how shallow it is."

(ok, if I get him up to speed, I'll get the soundbite I'm looking for)
MG: "You are aware that he's been branded as un-American or a socialist-"
BD: "You can't pay attention to that kind of stuff, as if you've never heard those kind of words before. Eisenhower was accused of being un-American. And wasn't Nixon a socialist? Look what he did in China. They'll say bad things about the next guy, too."

(I can't believe he's not saying it. Maybe he doesn't even believe it? Nah...he must just be messing with me. Screw it...if I have to drag him kicking and screaming and put the words in his cold, dead mouth, he's going to call the Republicans a bunch of racists!)
MG: "So you don't think some of the reaction against Obama has been in reaction to the event that a black man has become president of the United States?"
BD: "Do you want me to repeat what I just said, word for word? What are you talking about?..." (LOL)

I wondered where one or two of our regulars had gotten off to...apparently, at least one of them is writing for Rolling Stone. Hopefully, Dylan is never made guest of the month at the Café, or he'll doubtless be accused of getting all of his information from Fox News.
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The people you seek probably have a real life is my guess.
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Hayek is a lovely writer. Always wondered if he was related to Salma.
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Gilmore is Gary Gilmores son. (He murdered someone, mailer wrote a good book about it).
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On 2012-09-27 22:37, kcg5 wrote:
Gilmore is Gary Gilmores son. (He murdered someone, mailer wrote a good book about it).


His brother. The name rang a bell immediately - it was huge news at the time when Gilmore insisted on being executed - followed every bit as intensely as that annoying family whose name escapes me because I don't own anything they've branded.
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As I remember it, Norm and Gilmore were pushing some kind of theory of a connection with GG and Houdini. I'm sure it's on the net.
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Darn, Destiny. You got me.
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Sounds like Dylan is trying to stay as apolitical a possible. Not a bad move for a rock star, considering how divided the country has become.
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Dylan has never been one to shy away from speaking his mind. Interesting spin ERRRRRR take, but IMO, what it very clearly sounds like is he doesn't agree.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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Dylan has been through many changes, and has tried on many hats.
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On 2012-09-28 01:39, EsnRedshirt wrote:
Sounds like Dylan is trying to stay as apolitical a possible. Not a bad move for a rock star, considering how divided the country has become.


Puhlease.

When has a rock legend ever worried about this?

Much less this guy. How badly would it hurt his status?
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Kevin,

From memory so could be a little off the mark, Gilmore's grandmother fell pregnant with his father, not to her husband, but to someone she remembered as a famous magician. Someone in the family looked up who'd visited the city and decided it was Houdini. However Houdini was still a kid and not yet famous when Gilmore's father was conceived or born or hatched or whatever. I suppose 'a famous magician' might have been a more acceptable explanation for her husband than 'the milkman', or 'the bloke next door', or 'some bloke I met at the pub'.
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I never heard that part of the story.. I bet it was erdnase.
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Then as now, there were probably lots of famous magicians noone had ever heard of.
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Bob Dylan and the Bumper Stickers

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On 2012-09-27 18:56, LobowolfXXX wrote:
If you like hearing from Bob Dylan (as I do), grab the September 27 Rolling Stone while it's still available. Good thoughts from America's lifetime poet laureate. Having said that, there was a tremendously funny (to me) humor break in the middle of the interview when the interviewer (Mikal Gilmore) contorted himself like a circus act trying to get Dylan to say that criticism of President Obama is because of racism. It's seriously hilarious the way he tries (unsuccessfully) to put words in Dylan's mouth After Dylan talks in general about race relations in America, Gilmore brings up Obama. Then (with my own parenthetical annotations)...


(The first shot)
MG: "Since his election, there's been a great reaction by some against him."
BD: "They did the same thing to Bush, didn't they? They did the same thing to Clinton, too, and Jimmy Carter before that. Look what they did to Kennedy. Anybody who's going to take that job is going to be in for a rough time."

(Maybe if I prompt him a little more blatantly)
MG: "Don't you think some of the reaction has stemmed from that kind of racial resonance you were talking about?"
BD: "I don't know. I don't know, but I don't think that's the same thing. I have no idea what they are saying for or against him. I really don't. I don't know how deep it goes or how shallow it is."

(ok, if I get him up to speed, I'll get the soundbite I'm looking for)
MG: "You are aware that he's been branded as un-American or a socialist-"
BD: "You can't pay attention to that kind of stuff, as if you've never heard those kind of words before. Eisenhower was accused of being un-American. And wasn't Nixon a socialist? Look what he did in China. They'll say bad things about the next guy, too."

(I can't believe he's not saying it. Maybe he doesn't even believe it? Nah...he must just be messing with me. Screw it...if I have to drag him kicking and screaming and put the words in his cold, dead mouth, he's going to call the Republicans a bunch of racists!)
MG: "So you don't think some of the reaction against Obama has been in reaction to the event that a black man has become president of the United States?"
BD: "Do you want me to repeat what I just said, word for word? What are you talking about?..." (LOL)

I wondered where one or two of our regulars had gotten off to...apparently, at least one of them is writing for Rolling Stone. Hopefully, Dylan is never made guest of the month at the Café, or he'll doubtless be accused of getting all of his information from Fox News.
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On 2012-09-27 18:56, LobowolfXXX wrote:

If you like hearing from Bob Dylan (as I do), grab the September 27 Rolling Stone while it's still available. Good thoughts from America's lifetime poet laureate. Having said that, there was a tremendously funny (to me) humor break in the middle of the interview when the interviewer (Mikal Gilmore) contorted himself like a circus act trying to get Dylan to say that criticism of President Obama is because of racism. It's seriously hilarious the way he tries (unsuccessfully) to put words in Dylan's mouth After Dylan talks in general about race relations in America, ...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25195335

2 December 2013

US singer and song writer Bob Dylan has been placed under judicial investigation in France for allegedly provoking ethnic hatred of Croats.
It follows a legal complaint lodged by a Croat association in France over a 2012 interview Dylan gave to Rolling Stone magazine. In the interview he allegedly compared the relationship between Jews and Nazis to that of Serbs and Croats.

The singer, 72, was served notice of the investigation last month. At the time he was in Paris to receive the Legion of Honour, a prestigious French award.

In the Rolling Stone interview, Bob Dylan was sharing his thoughts about US history and the country's racial divide.

He is reported to have said: "Blacks know that some whites didn't want to give up slavery - that if they had their way, they would still be under the yoke, and they can't pretend they don't know that.

"If you got a slave master or [Ku Klux] Klan in your blood, blacks can sense that. That stuff lingers to this day. Just like Jews can sense Nazi blood and the Serbs can sense Croatian blood."

Being placed under judicial investigation means that authorities are taking the complaint seriously but that it won't necessarily go further, the BBC's Hugh Schofield in Paris says.
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