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Joe Roberts
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Yes, I won't be buying it. But no, the same argument doesn't apply (the same argument couldn't possibly apply because the argument was predicated on how different technology affects the audience's perception).

Either way, good luck with it.
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I tend to agree that say a SAW at £100 represents far better value. Almost everything that can be done with this app could be done with a SAW with less chance of the wallet being suspected due to the "technology". SAW on the other hand could be used for a plethora of effects that can't be done with this app. For 300 I could get a SAW. Directors cut 1 and 2 and Mental Killer which is an awesome app at a much more realistic price. With those alone I could get equal reaction over a more diverse range of effects and still have over 100 bucks to spend on some great DVD's.

This thread has caused some hype and it's a great app but it's far more limited than the thread would have you believe. Realistically you don't want them to make more than a few attempts to unlock your phone as the iPhone will temporarily block you after 4 attempts. Reveal 4 numbers that match the 4 numbers they tried in your phone in the same performance and it's a no brainier to track back. For a working pro the opportunities to reveal the info on a later date is massively limited as different date different audience. Sure in a residency you do get some regulars but again if you are a busy pro keeping track of who's pin is who's and which dob you got from which regular is a nightmare.

There are plenty better ways to spend 300 bucks. Who knows maybe Alan Rorrisons original version of this is still available somewhere at a more realistic price.
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I think when you consider you can get the TA box set for less than the price of this app it puts it into perspective.
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What perspective? this app has a small market and a lot of time and effort went into the fabrication and design and testing. It is constantly updated as new elements are added.
A peak wallet costs £100. All the guys who have bought this certainly have no complaints. We have also shot videos of routines and settings. It has been tested in the field by working magicians.
But that's all good. if you are interested in the app message Myke and he and Salah will sort it out for you.
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Did the guys who bought it pay $300 though ?????

How much was the Pre release price that went out to some of the people on here ?

They are trying to recoupe the money and time spent by hiking the price up , it does sound ok but not for $300 surely .
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Selling 3-4 at that price and he's set. It would take a butt load of sales to make that kind of money. The only thing I think is disappointing for most people is that they were quoted a ballpark price and then it got knocked out of the ballpark into a different city lol. Now he's kind if locked in at that price as the ones who paid $300 wouldn't be too happy that anyone got it cheaper
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Hi guys Myke here.

I have been watching this post but I have not had the time to reply to your concerns. It has been a hectic few days, I'm working flat out here with so much interest.

Firstly, I'd like to say that I'm sorry that the app has not made it to the App Store we thought it Would sail through, but because our app mimics some iOS features so well, apple think that you guys may get confused as to which is the the real screens and the fake screens. That's good news because it means we did an exceptional job, bad news for you because you won't get this.

Since we announced our app, we have been bombarded with emails asking to purchase "Pre release" copies. We even had offers near the $1000 mark, TV offers. These pro performers know that this app is worth every penny of what they were offering, we did not set the price, they did. So, even though these guys were willing to shell out this money, it was just for the basic version of our app, we looked at the offers and we set a happy medium and decided that the Pre release price is $300 and offered a package with a support page where we are in a secret group where we can all discuss ideas and tips, etc etc.... We had videos shot with some great effects, explanations of those effects and some great tips on mentalism and a killer handling of a principle you all use and know.

So, everyone who did bite the bullet and bought the app did certainly pay the $300 and not a penny less. They are all extremely happy, some are guys from this Café and every one of them is a very busy working pro. I can not ask them to post their honest opinions if they want to say something they can, good or bad no problem.

I'm not twisting anyone's arm to purchase our app, it's on the table if you want it. I do regret announcing a price and if it did pass the apple review team you would have had this right now on your iPhones and you would have been happy. Some of you would have complained even if it was on offer for $3 and that's ok, that's just the kind of person you are and that's why your here reading this and replying.

Our app is a powerhouse utility device for mentalist's with some amazing features. I have had messages saying that it is the best iPhone app out there and probably one of the best mentalism effects they have purchased. I'm very happy with that!

Comparing our app to promystic and saying there is no comparison... Well, you can't say that if you don't have our app to compare it with.

I could tear most of you apart on all of your points regarding backtracking and the like but I'm not going to, I'm just too busy and don't want to get in to arguments. Some of you are only here to wind up other performers and stir things up, I will not rise to it, and I'm sure most can see through it.

We still have Pre release copies on offer if you're interested email me on mykephillips@mac.com it is $300.

Kindest Regards
Myke
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Come on guys. Lets call it as it is! It was considered a $25 app before apple said no, so how does that make it a $300 app now. Has the app got better....no. As for limiting the number of people with it, its rubbish. Lets say they sold a few thousand in usa and uk. Its still unlikely that most members of the public will get to see it. In a niche market such as magic, the "exclusivety" is in my mind only a benefit in the heads of magicians.
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On 2012-11-12 03:30, mykephillips wrote:
We even had offers near the $1000 mark, TV offers.


$1000 to buy the rights to perform an effect on tv is insultingly low and it SHOULD give you some idea what the effect is really worth for the general magic public. It would suggest you're looking at a trick in the $5 range. Television rights are not generally just three times what the cost is for the normal buyer. For example, Misled is a $15 trick. When David Copperfield purchased the TV rights, he didn't pay $50.

That being said, I do think this would make a better TV trick, because then you could cut out the part where they enter their passcode into your phone.
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Not for the rights, just pre release.

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As it seems there will be no release the pre release is the release(:
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Myke might have found himself boycotted amongst most magicians
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On 2012-11-12 07:10, Jonathan100 wrote:
As it seems there will be no release the pre release is the release(:


If this is the case, it's really too bad. I'm sure there are still a lot of people interested in this, like myself, that just can't justify the pre-release price. Which probably makes the people that did shell out the $300 quite pleased Smile
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I don't understand why Apple have rejected this. Mykes reason is that the app looks too similar to actual iOS software, however there are a few apps out there now that mimic the actual software very well!
Also the point of raising the price I can understand, but not by this much?! As for the people on here who are saying its amazing and worth the money, some if not all are friends of Myke and probably were given this free, I doubt they paid the $300 asking price!

I have no doubt this would be amazing to use, but I feel a bit let down by the massive hype by Myke, to then find out the price and added a few zeros!
I wish Myke and Salah the best of luck with this, and I'm sure anyone willing to spend the asking price will enjoy it!
For a while Houdini used alot of trap doors in his act, but he was just going through a stage!
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As a hobbyist I can't justify the price. I just wish they had released it via Cydia instead. I really hope that no pirate copies turn up. It is a terrible shame for Myke and the team. A lot of effort has obviously gone into this app.
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There is, of course, Android.
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On 2012-11-12 15:37, pegasus wrote:
As a hobbyist I can't justify the price. I just wish they had released it via Cydia instead. I really hope that no pirate copies turn up. It is a terrible shame for Myke and the team. A lot of effort has obviously gone into this app.


Thank you for your comment, I appreciate it.

I can only apologise that this has to happen this way.


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Hi JPovey,

I know Lee and Niel very well, when are you next covering the magic cave stall? I will show you the app and tell you what our plans are and why the high price so you can understand exactly why.

Sorry if you feel let down mate.

Best
Myke
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So to show him how it's worth the price, are you going to show him how it was made 10x's better? You have to admit that the 'out if nowhere' astronomical rise in price due to apple declining it is what has most everyone po'd. If they did approve it, the price would barely be above what you originally quoted. And to be fair, any upcoming apps from you should all be in the $300 ballpark to remain consistent.
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On 2012-11-13 10:32, lunatik wrote:
So to show him how it's worth the price, are you going to show him how it was made 10x's better? You have to admit that the 'out if nowhere' astronomical rise in price due to apple declining it is what has most everyone po'd. If they did approve it, the price would barely be above what you originally quoted. And to be fair, any upcoming apps from you should all be in the $300 ballpark to remain consistent.


Anyway......

Everyone who bought the app at $300 is super happy.

I "MAY" post two studio vides of the effects that are possible with the app if anyone is interested to watch??

Myke
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