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DamienKeen
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Hi al..

Just wondering what presentation you use with crazy man's handcuffs?

Damien.
Leeman
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I use the set up of I am a great escape artist, even better then hudini but I can't afford the expensive props so I use rubberbands. I set the bands up and show how I can escape them by just letting then slide off my fingers, then I do it the hard way and do the actual trick.
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I'm similiar, I say that the bands once held the scrolls in which houdini had written all his magic upon... and as such some of that magic has found its way within them. I only do 'escape' portion of CMH, as it fits the story line and what Houdini did.

Houdini never chained up a box and buried it then stood on the ground above it and said... now watch me get into the box. Smile
Jay
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Here is a link to a thread I started a while ago:

http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......;forum=4

Maybe this is something you can use!

Jay Smile
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I ask people if they ever played with those tube things when they were a kid? You know, you'd put you fingers in like this and then you couldn't get them out. Unless you figured out the secret move.

(While doing the first part, I mime the tube with my fists and then mime putting my fingers in and getting the them caught.)

{Most people are now going "Yeah, those... Chinese..." I say "finger traps! Yeah those")

I tell them that I loved those things when I was a kid. They intrigued me for some reason. And so I tried to recreate that same effect with something else. I found that if you hook two rubber bands together like this, that your fingers would be linked together.

Now of course these bands are only made of rubber, like the finger traps were only made of paper and you could rip them apart if you really wanted to or just pull these bands off your fingers. (I acutally pull them off at this point to emphasize that the will slip off.)But that's kinda cheating. See you gotta try and figure out how to separate you fingers and have the bands stay on.

So I tried to figure out if there was some sort of move to get my fingers apart, like with the finger traps. I tried to go this way through the finger. That didn't work. I tried the other way through the thumb, that didn't work either. I tried going through the middle, which is, of course, impossible, because solid doesn't go through solid. The key is just to rub the bands together together like this and they come apart.

I'll show you that again because you probably didn't know what to look for the first time. See, one band is clearly down behind the other, otherwise I couldn't do this. (I am now pulling the bands against each other showing them that they are linked) So you can't go left, can't go right, it's just a rub and they come right apart.

Now some people accuse me of doing some kind of fancy finger thing. But you see it's not me. Magic rubber bands. I can prove it.

(you now set up the band on the spectators hands)

Now my band is clearly down behind yours. If I tried to out this way, I'm blocked. If I tried the other way, I'm still can't, because you fingers are in the way. Even if I tried to get through, (said as I mime struggling to pass the band through their tightly clenched fist) I couldn't because you'd stop me. Which is good because that's your job.

So I can't go right, can't go left, and through the middle is impossible! But see, it's just a rub and the band comes right through.

(Now when all the reaction happens after the last penetration, I set up for Crazy Man's with a twist right in front of them)

Now, there is a danger in doing this trick. If the bands are set up one behind the other like this (again pull one against the other showing them "linked") and you rub to fast, the one band can get caught half way through. When that happens, the one band will actually meld right into the other one and you are left with just one! (End with the one band dangling from your finger. When I do the meld, I slide the "second band" off my finger and pinch the loop against the "other" band and hold that for a second or two before I let it go on the word meld. It looks awesome!)
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Hawkan
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I am almost ashamed to post this (again!), but someone maybe thinks it´s funny.
You can talk about how important it is for some ladies that you use rubber.... After that, friction (rubbing the bands to each other) is what makes a good penetration...Smile Or something like that.
Please don´t ban me!

Smile
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Uli Weigel
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I think that CMH is one of the tricks that's better performed without a presentation that's loaded with "meaning". I would rather emphasize the basic effect, the impossibility of the penetration and communicate that clearly.
I also dislike heavily any Houdini stories in the context of this trick. I mean, hey, these are just rubberbands! What the heck has this to do with Houdini? Just because the trick is named CMH doesn't mean you should use a presentation that has to do with handcuffs or escapology.
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On 2003-10-31 19:31, Uli Weigel wrote:
I think that CMH is one of the tricks that's better performed without a presentation that's loaded with "meaning". I would rather emphasize the basic effect, the impossibility of the penetration and communicate that clearly.
I also dislike heavily any Houdini stories in the context of this trick. I mean, hey, these are just rubberbands! What the heck has this to do with Houdini? Just because the trick is named CMH doesn't mean you should use a presentation that has to do with handcuffs or escapology.


I do see your point here, however what would be your motivation to do the trick? I'm not heavily into the meaning of magic yet but I still try and avoid "look at this it's amazing, aren't I great?". If you have some patter, then you will steer away from this.
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Quite simply, my motivation to perform CMH is to astonish people with a totally impossible penetration and to communicate the feeling of impossibility. The underlying symbolism of the effect speaks very well for itself.
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No patter necessary the effect does speak for it self.I totally agree.


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GaryW
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I (and it's true) talk about a magician I saw that made two rubber bands on his fingers melt through each other and ever since I've been trying to duplicate his feat (and mock surprise when they do melt).
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I've been playing with different patter for a long time. I find that the longer the patter the more they feel that they "missed out" on the effect. If I clearly explain what is going to happen and do it I wont get them asking to see it again right away. But the opposite is true too. If I have a long patter then they will ask to see it again right away. For those reasons I try and keep it breif and to the point the first time... Because I don't like to teach Smile
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On 2003-11-01 08:20, Uli Weigel wrote:
Quite simply, my motivation to perform CMH is to astonish people with a totally impossible penetration and to communicate the feeling of impossibility. The underlying symbolism of the effect speaks very well for itself.



It sounds like you have a really clear meaning to your version, one that I think few magicians could emulate because when we try and show the impossible we look like we are showing off that we can do the impossible.

I hate when people try putting motivation and meaning into their effects by adding stupid or weak links. Tricks where the jacks are detectives, the rubber bands are shackles etc.
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Chalk me up as another who gives no meaning to CMH. When you have two rubber bands and that's it, there's not a whole lot of explaining necessary. When you put one behind the other, that's something that everyone has done at some point in his life. I just do the effect with a kind of 'watch this' approach. I think a long story would detract from the effect.
Jay
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Different strokes for different folks, I guess. My version, with story, kills.

Jay Smile
ChessMess
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I think story telling adds a sense of the spectator and the magician being on equal standing... rather then the magican being a step above because "Look at what I can do".

If you don't like the 4 Jacks story then you must really hate 'Sam the Bellhop' or 'Kate and Edith'. Not to say non-story telling effects are bad (ie Ambitious Card)... but I think inclusion of one or two in a set is a good way to go. But... that's just me, everyone is different.
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