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wafflesthemagician
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Yeah... 19th century coins in good condition tend to be... pricey, ESPECIALLY if they're "Canadian" (See, Extra Note). Try your luck, and try to find non-graded coins. I've bought 1797 cartwheel pennies for a couple dollars, & I've recently gotten my hands on a bunch of 1897 Victorian Pennies for 25 cents each! The true value of a coin is how well it is preserved, compared to how long it's been around for. If the coin has been worn, collectors don't see any more value in them anymore, other than maybe melt value.(In this case, ~$10 for the half dollar.) So, ask them, or look around coin stores, and they tend to have two sections, when it comes to silver: Graded, and non-graded. The graded stuff is the stuff in separate "display" slips, while the non-graded stuff is all in a box, below. Just ask them if they have 19th century half dollars in the non-graded section. You might just get lucky!

Note: There's no possibility of you getting a 19th century Canadian dollar. Voyageurs were minted starting 1935...

Extra Note: The first coins made in Canada started in 1908. When you're looking at your "Canadian" half dollar from 1888, it's technically "Canadian", but it's English coinage, made for "The Dominion of Canada". They had to ship the coins to Canada. Just a little interesting history. Maybe you might like that for your steampunk-ery.

Sources: I collect Canadian Silver, & English Pennies. But for realzies, here's a good timeline: http://www.mint.ca/store/dyn/PDFs/RollTimeline_e.pdf
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On 2012-11-06 20:03, Corey Toews wrote:
Well, I found a local coin store that has a pair of Canadian 50 cent coins dated 1888 today. One is in fine condition for $500 CAD and the other is Very Good for $1500 CAD.

Sigh.

You might have an easier time keeping a focus on the character rather than the props. How many pence in a shilling? Does the audience need to know about Whigs or the stamp acts?
Production design and props can get difficult if you need to do the history as realtime. In context they were "in use and relatively new" (XF-AU) condition as are most modern quarters etc.
If it helps- if you're working with other actors - the props are what you say they are. If you're working with the audience then your character has likely been around this time/place for a while and so would have learned to use modern money ... but kept their clever devices unless they've used materials at hand to advance their craft. See the story Mozart in Mirrorshades for example. Smile
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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Johnathan, thanks! I do have a tendancy to get focused on the wrong things. I think I will still be trying to find some english coinage stamped 1888, probably a penny or half penny for at least one routine I have in mind. I've also been ruminating on Master Payne's advise on using cogs and gears. I am looking into incorperating a gear into Roy Kueppers leathal tender routine. I think I've just about got the idea nailed down.

Incidently, Waffles, are you sure you're 18?
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Corey, I'm pretty sure I'm 18, last time I checked.... One second, let me check again.... Yep, still 18. Is there a particular reason you're asking?
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Smile It's just unusual to find a young adult who is that knowlageable. I'm impressed!
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