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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
As a Scotch Irish Presbyterian white male heterosexual, I've never been discriminated against in my life. I'm old enough to remember when blacks were not allowed at my PUBLIC school. When integration happened in the early 1960's my parents pulled me out of public school and placed me in private school. Integration was the main reason. My parents and grandparents who were well off in Pittsburgh were members of the a golf club that did not allow jews or blacks (or catholics for that matter ) to join. Women were not allowed to join my grandfathers "club" (the University Club). A black family couldn't buy a house on my street when I grew up. I remember all the gay jokes, black jokes, jew jokes, it was just a part of the way everyone reacted back then. My father was convinced that blacks were intellectually inferior to whites and was ****ed when in the seventies he had to train a black man for his job level. He wasn't a bad man. That is just they way everyone thought back then.
I recognize that my background gave me huge advantages. I have never once thought that gays, blacks, jews, and even catholics were not being discriminated against. I knew they were discriminated against because it went on all around me. I certainly never complained when they wanted special rights. I knew they deserved them and I knew I had extreme advantages that they didn't have. Never seemed unfair for them to ask for the same advantages I'd been given all my life. |
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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
And quite honestly, there is nothing more self-pitying than the white straight male complaining of being discriminated against. If you are too blind to know the opportunities you've had, you are probably too dumb to take advantage them.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2012-11-05 14:18, Slide wrote: I agree with the spirit of all that you wrote EXCEPT your phrase "I certainly never complained when they wanted special rights." The issue is NOT about them wanting special rights. It is simply about them wanting the same rights as everyone else- EQUAL rights. |
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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
You are right Bob. I was referring to the "special rights" implied by the OP. I agree with you completely.
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mastermindreader 1949 - 2017 Seattle, WA 12586 Posts |
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On 2012-11-05 14:40, Slide wrote: I knew you did, but I was afraid someone would jump in and say, "See, you ARE in favor of special rights!" |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-11-05 14:18, Slide wrote: Never? Cool. I can think of a few times for me...I was required under threat if incarceration to register for the draft, which wouldn't have happened but for my sex and sexual orientation. I've also been ineligible for college scholarships because of my race and at an explicit competitive disadvantage in academic admissions because of my race. Since then, however, my home state has past legislation prohibiting racial discrimination in pubic school college admissions.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
Quote: On 2012-11-05 19:28, LobowolfXXX wrote:
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Slide Special user 533 Posts |
Nope . Never.
If you feel you as a white heterosexual male have felt held back as a result of the fact that you are male, white , and heterosexual, well all I can say is that I don't relate. My god , if you feel discriminated against, hard to understand what you wish you had been born that would have made your life easier. |
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
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On 2012-11-04 10:40, seadog93 wrote: OP? They're fighting EYES?
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
If "Freedom Isn't Free," is it really freedom, or just slavery to the military-industrial-congressional complex?
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
The absurd is the essential concept and the first truth. - Albert Camus |
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2012-11-05 13:53, Pecan_Creek wrote: You missed it. It was about 40 to 50 years ago. It was a great time to be Straight, White and Middle Aged. We weren't ****ed off at all, that came later.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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ringmaster Inner circle Memphis, Down in Dixie 1974 Posts |
After closely following this election cycle I am just plain sick of people.
One of the last living 10-in-one performers. I wanted to be in show business the worst way, and that was it.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-11-05 19:58, Slide wrote: Now you're moving the goalposts. Who said anything about being "held back"? Inversely, I have gay, female, and non-white friends who don't feel they've been held back, either. No, the question I was addressing wasn't one of being "held back," but of being "discriminated against." Hard to understand what you think discrimination means if you don't think it applies to, say, mandatory draft registration under threat of imprisonment based on one's sex and sexual orientation.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
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On 2012-11-05 19:58, Slide wrote: This story is TRUE, and no names will be changed to protect anyone. I was 18-years-old, and doing my first Washington internship, and a friend and I decided to get gallery passes for the congress. Back then (I have no idea how it is these days) you had to get a gallery pass from a senator. We went to his senator's office first. Then we went to Dan Inouey's office. The conversation went something like this: "Hi! I'm living in Washington working as an intern and I would like a gallery pass." "Hm. OK. But why didn't you go to your own senator's office?" "Ma'am, Mr Inouye is my senator. I'm from Aiea." At which point she got visibly rattled, and went and fetched some higher-up AA to give us a grand tour of Mr Inouye's office to make up for her faux pas. I've been called a "!@#$%^& haole many times, but only once did I get punched in the head right afterwards. But that single event made an impression on me, I assure you. Things are different for me now that I live in Germany. But back in Hawaii? Be anything but white. |
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critter Inner circle Spokane, WA 2653 Posts |
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On 2012-11-06 02:00, stoneunhinged wrote: I always try to warn people about the racism in Hawaii. Nobody ever listens. Or they think it's "innocent."
"The fool is one who doesn't know what you have just found out."
~Will Rogers |
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Dreadnought Special user Athens, Georgia 836 Posts |
Just got back from visiting family on the Rez. I feel so sorry for white people.
Peace and Godspeed.
Peace
"Ave Maria gratia plena Dominus tecum..." Scott Would you do anything for the person you love? |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
We're worth feeling sorry for, sometimes. Then again, sometimes we make me sick.
I'm not really white, anyway. I'm kind of pinkish/redish. My Tinker Bell tattoo is finished, and the tattooist put a bunch of ink into her skin tone. In the end, her skin tone sort of matches my own. That made me wonder why he used so much ink. Couldn't he just have left the outline, and then my own skin color would be the skin tone? And then he wouldn't have had to use any ink at all, right? What color are you, Dreadnought? |
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Magnus Eisengrim Inner circle Sulla placed heads on 1053 Posts |
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On 2012-11-06 12:22, Dreadnought wrote: :thumbsup:
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity.--Yeats |
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magicalaurie Inner circle Ontario, Canada 2962 Posts |
Jeff,
My guess would be blending shadows and highlights to show contours, but I'm not a tattooist, and I haven't seen your finished tattoo. A friend of mine has a Philadelphia Flyers logo, I believe it is, on her foot with the white left out because it didn't seem necessary and ink costs more. But that was a simple logo and I think that's the qualified difference. Did you ask the artist? |
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stoneunhinged Inner circle 3067 Posts |
I didn't ask, because the thought didn't occur to me until after I took off the protective stuff that covers it (some kind of medical version of cellophane).
I'll post the tattoo on FB soon. |
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