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Dave said: For what it's worth, my two cents is that whatever routine you end up with, have it end with ball/ balls flying to the spectator's hand. That is all anyone remembers because it is the strongest thin you can do with SB.
Yes Dave, either that or a bunch of balls. The problem with a bunch of balls is that is more suitable for show but it still makes a mess. For walkaround, I agree with you.

Someone mentioned sponge balls as not being elegant enough. I avoided the balls for a long time due to not being natural etc. But when you do the feint and then "send" a ball to their hand, you realize there aren't many miracles to the spectator that register this strongly. For real.
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Lawrence,


Your bibliography is beautiful but overwhelming. Can you recommend three or four of the items on your lists that you judge to be the best for beginners to sponge balls?


Many thanks,


Bob
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Good point. I believe Lawrence is no longer actively involved in writing posts for the MC. You might see why> It could be a full time job. So let's ask other members to recommend 3-4 things from his list. OR FROM ANYWHERE. what WOULD YOU RECOMMEND FOR BEGINNERS TO SPONGE BALLS?

I would suggest anything from Daryl especially his Master Course in Sponge Balls . Salinas is said to be good. You can't go wrong with the World's Greatest Magic on Sponge Balls. I have been doing sponge balls for a while, yet still appreciated Patrick Page's DVD on Sponge Balls. ANY OTHER IDEAS?
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Learn a simple routine. Go perform it at least 10 times. Then you will be ready to dig into other material.

I liked Oddballs, but it isn’t a beginner dvd.

I vote for starting with Patrick Page. He has enough tips and hints to give you a direction to go after you get the basic routine down.

But try to avoid the paralysis of analysis that comes from continually seeking the best video or book or whatever. That keeps you from doing magic.

Patrick
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Thanks, countrymaven and Patrick. I have the Wilson book and Daryl's DVD's, so that should be plenty to get me started. You're right about paralysis, Patrick. Right now I'm working intensively on a card routine anyway, so I'll stick to that for now.


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Thanks Patrick, You are right about the paralysis of analysis. We are spoiled and have too many excellent resources available. The key is getting a good routine down, and performing it. Then you are ready to evaluate other sleights and routines. thanks and happy new year!
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We should also add Mick Ayres' sponge ball routine. Very practical and carries big surprises.

But to honor Lawrence's massive posts, follow his own summary of his advice:
Gary Ouellet's Close Up Illusions is a fantastic book (and hehad a fantastic Retention of Vision vanish technique for sponge balls that is rarely seen)... because it would take you more than a month to read all of these routines (let alone getting the books or the DVDs) so:

Read Scott Guinn
Study John Carney
work a bit on Bizzaro
Don't overlook Frank Balzerac (World Greatest Magic by the World’s Greatest Magicians)
and work on Roger Klause sponge up the spectator's sleeve and use a Sanada Gimmick after checking Troy Hooser's technique with the TT
Then design your own routine adding feints along Jerry Lukins advice (Fred Kaps taught me that any routine without at least two feints was just a beginner's ego trip)
Don't do the multiple balls finale for after a big success, having to go down to the floor to get some of them back destroys the great image of you that your climax produced (see Tom Stone's stage show with sponge balls): go for a large ball climax instead
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For what it is worth, I just saw Steve Bargatze lecture as part of the January IBM JAM, he had one of the better sponge ball routines that I have seen. It is worth checking it out.
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Thanks, countrymaven. I didn't noticed Lawrence's summary -- that's very useful to have.
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Thanks kc, for your new addition. Yes Bob, thanks to you as well. I think Lawrence graciously realized that most magicians could not possibly consult half of the resources he mentioned, and if they did so, it would merely add to their confusion. So I agree that we should take his summary recommendations seriously. Then move on from there.
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Steve Dacri SpongeBall Toolbox is excellent!
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