For the life of me I can not find any learning material for the underground elmsley.

How do we also do elmsley with 5 cards I only find 4 card tutorials/lessons.

I basicly bought COPWAK by Paul Gordan, asks to do an underground elmsley and normal elmsley with 5 cards etc.. already lost!

I will pm you.

Now it tells me I got to use a Jordan count!

Why it don't explain moves I do not know!

I'd recommend BBM's The Elmsley Count Project as a great introduction to the Elmsley Count. It also covers several variations including the Underground Elmsley and the Jordan Count.

"Counthesaurus" a book by J. Racherbaumer will teach you most of the popular false counts/displays...
http://themagicwarehouse.com/BK4897/Counthesaurus.html

Cadamagically,

DomC

I second the recommendation for The Elmsley Count Project as a great place to learn some basics on this county. Well taught. When practicing, I also recommend downloading a free Metronome app for your smartphone and practice the moves to it to get a good rythym going.

If you like packet tricks, the book "Counts, Cuts, Moves and Subtleties" By Jerry Mentzer be a great resource for a lot of these moves that unfortunatley are not always explained in the trick itself. I see it listed here http://www.penguinmagic.com/p/S4837 for only $6.38.

What is the underground Elmsley meaning how is it different that the regular Elmsley? Please pm me if you don't want to expose as I would appreciate it.
Thanks.