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I'm just a beginner with the ACR. I would like to know the name of the move where the card is pushed into the deck and left sticking out slightly. The deck is then turned over to verify that it really is the spectator's card. Then the card is buried even more into the deck, pushed into the deck and then is found to be on top.

My apologies if this is difficult to understand, but if anyone has David Blaine's Street Magic, I am describing the move before the pop-up move.

Also, Steve Draun performs this move in his ACR video on his website (sorry, I can't remember the URL), it's the move which causes the woman to exclaim "Jesus!".


Thanks.
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Here is the link to the Steve Draun ACR...

http://www.stevedraun.com/movies/ambitiouscard.wmv

As for the move, I cannot remember the name right now but you can find it in books such as Cardshark in the routine "The Psychotronic Card"....

Hope this helps,
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I'm pretty sure the move is wesley james' add-on move. or at least david regal claimed this was the inventor of the move in his 1st dvd. his explanation to the trick Everywhere includes this remark
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I can't be certain, but it looks like it could be Wesley James's "The Load Up". It can be found in his book, "The Magical Record and Thoughts of Wesley James". It can also be found it just about every ambitious card routine in existence.

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Hmmmmm I thought it was called JAMES/ELLIS LOADING MOVE?? Smile
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THAT'S it, James/Ellis loading move, thanks guys.
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Hmmmm...ok guess I was wrong. what is the wesley james move then??
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On 2003-11-04 18:41, david_a_whitehead wrote:
Hmmmm...ok guess I was wrong. what is the wesley james move then??


He swallows a deck before the show. It takes a lot of practice to cough up the right card on demand, though.


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On 2003-11-04 18:41, david_a_whitehead wrote:
Hmmmm...ok guess I was wrong. what is the wesley james move then??


You're thinking of the same thing: (Wesley)James/Ellis loading
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Sounds like your talking about the "push in change."
It is also described in Darwin Ortiz's "Scams and Fantasies" in his ambitious card routine.
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The push in change occurs just before the load up move.
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The push in change occurs just before the load up move.


You're confusing two items. There is no push-in change in the James/Ellis move.

The ambitious sequence with the push-in change is, to the best of my knowledge, a Lorayne concept.

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The push in change occurs just before the load up move.


You're confusing two items. There is no push-in change in the James/Ellis move.

The ambitious sequence with the push-in change is, to the best of my knowledge, a Lorayne concept.

Justin



Correct. The James/Ellis move and the push-in change are two different moves, though both have been used in ACR. As far as I know, the push-in change itself was first in Roterberg's New Era Card Tricks. Harry Lorayne may have been the one to include its use in the ACR -- maybe he'll respond and confirm that . . .
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I do do a push-in change sort of thing in my ACR routine - don't know if that's the one under discussion here. I'm not a very good historian, so you'd have to check it out - check out my routine on youtube, and see if it's the one being referred to here. Best - H.
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On 2013-01-05 12:57, Justin W. wrote:
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The push in change occurs just before the load up move.


You're confusing two items. There is no push-in change in the James/Ellis move.

The ambitious sequence with the push-in change is, to the best of my knowledge, a Lorayne concept.

Justin


I wasn't implying that the push in change was related to the load up move. In the Steve Draun ACR, he does it just before the load up move.
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The link didn't work for me....
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Correct link, select the first vid

http://www.stevedraun.com/movies.htm
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