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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
For this thread, lets talk about escapes. Lets not debate the philosophy if inusts or any other junk like that. Here, I'll start
I saw a pair of hand stocks in a magic shop. I am thinking of buying them. They have a gimmick I have not seen perviously. I don't think they would stand on their own. That is I would combine them with a bag escape or some other device that makes the audiece think they saw the whole business when they did not. anyone else seen or working on any unusual equipment?
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Roslyn Inner circle UK 3405 Posts |
.... Erm.... Nope.
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Harley Newman Inner circle 5117 Posts |
If the audience wouldn't see the gaff, why can't they stand on their own?
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magicofCurtis Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts |
What are they Cliff? This could help us!
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magicbymccauley Special user 830 Posts |
I just got done working on a stocks escape that uses an old principle in a new way. Will send video soon.
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
Good question Harley. The answer is that the gaff is invisible under normal conditions, I canhave a volunteer handle them under control and lock me in. The problme is that when the gaff is activated, it becomes totally obvious...
1. What and why it is 2. That I did not get out by opening the lock So, I suppose I could have a volunteer hold my jacket over my hands while I got out, but that seems a bit anti-climactic. Curtis: They are hand stocks. wooden blocks that hinge and hasp together about 12" by 8" or so with two holes for hands to be locked in.
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magicbymccauley Special user 830 Posts |
Cliff: then I would say provide red herrings. Red herrings are often essential to an illusion (which this sort of is). Make like you are picking a lock, repeatedly point out you don't have a pick hidden anywhere, use a suspicious looking handkerchief. Provide alternate explanations but none that will suffice.
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts |
Sounds like Abbott's Stocks of Solomon or variant.
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Harley Newman Inner circle 5117 Posts |
I shall always maintain that equipment is rarely the problem, if you have the right presentation. I also like very simple equipment.
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dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts |
I have simple equipment ........ Oh no she said un impressive
From talking to Riley and Mick Hanzlic ..... David De-Val got away with a lot with the right handling. |
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magicbymccauley Special user 830 Posts |
Steve, I have the Abbott's plans but they seemed too difficult for me to make with just a table saw and some drills. I tried a different method, but the method was flawed. Then I went to home depot and came up with three new methods. One didn't work, and then we (myself and my carpenter) picked the better one. I think it's new. Maybe people won't like it and think it's lame. Who knows, maybe it's a bad idea.
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
I'm bet this escape,Cliff, is the Indian copy of DeVal's wrist stocks.
You should know what those are.
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magicbymccauley Special user 830 Posts |
Jay, are the wrist stocks you sell De Val's? Or are they your own design?
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dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts |
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On 2012-12-12 02:26, jay leslie wrote: If they are the De-Val ones (I have only used them once) then the release kind of relies on cover and 2 spectators 'helping' restrain you. The ones I have are a bit too loud and clunky ...... They may well be a rip off. Ill take em along to UKEA next march and get throes who knew David check em over. |
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Wolflock Inner circle South Africa 2257 Posts |
I have a great set of Le Peggy Depose Handcuffs which are the ONLY gimmicked set I have. Never used them for shows but keep them in my collection as they were given to me by Philippart and Anja as a gift. Have not yet seen or heard of another set like these. No one answered on the handcuffs forum before to tell me what they were worth or if anyone else has a set. Apparently they are easy to gimmick, but, if they are or not is of no concern to me. I just really like my set.
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
Jay, without giving anything away here, I think they are not that. They are a design different from one's you have and different from what I got in PM's about them.
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jay leslie V.I.P. Southern California 9498 Posts |
Even so. Use the imperfections of the device and it's idiosyncrasies to your advantage.
Where's a picture?
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
I haven't bought it yet. Hang on, coming soon...
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magicofCurtis Inner circle Los Angeles 2545 Posts |
Hmm... How much is it Cliff?
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts |
Still negotiating....
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