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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
Well, this looks very interesting. Anyone know of Fraser Parker?
Demo and info: http://mindlapse.myshopify.com/products/......dvd-book |
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
I've read the origin ebook and I can honestly say it is one of the best things I've read in a LONG time. I use EVERYTHING from the book. (All 11!) It is SERIOUS stuff. Extremely extremely brilliant thinking. This is a no brainer for those who don't have the ebook.
This has literally evolutionized my thinking on magic/mentalism. You seem to have COMPLETE control over everyone. This is as close to the real thing as possible. And yet no hypnosis. And its pretty much sure fire. |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
I'm into hypnosis since 1988 and must say, that this performances look like waking hypnosis. this form of hypnosis (better known as suggestions) works very well with many people totally impromptu.
if this is not what I think, I'm pretty impressed. looking forward to hear some nice reviews. just my 5 swiss francs
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Creator of: STEEL (performed by Dynamo), X-RAY, Real Coin Bend (performed by Dynamo), Totally Crazy Bands, Rasmus Haunted Deck, MCF CARDS, Jawbreaker, CRAZY CARD CHANGE, POLTERGEIST, STEEL Stage Version, X-RAY Stage Version http://rasmusmagic.ch |
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
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On 2012-12-13 21:05, rasmus wrote: While Suggestion is KIND OF a part of it, it isn't waking hypnosis at all. As a matter of fact, so far, I've had 100% success rate with every effect (Good luck getting that with suggestion) |
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Amirá Inner circle MentalismCenter.com 5131 Posts |
Fraser work offers an unique approach to mystery moments.
I will get the DVD surely and review it. Best
Pablo
Performer and Author Mentalism Center: The best online space to get quality Mentalism www.mentalismcenter.com Arkanosophy: The Boutique for Mystery Performers www.arkanosophy.com |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
What do you think how hypnosis work? without suggestions? just think about it my friend
btw: if it is a suggestion system or what you will call it, you have to be a strong personality to achieve this. that's something that is very hard to learn.it's not enough to be a magician or a mental performer. I don't think that we have to give everybody the possibility, to learn hypnosis or to show them, how to influence others, because there^s a lot of responsibility behind theese tecniques IMO. using theese principles as a magician or mentalist can really harm your reputation as magic performer, because many people are afraid of loosing control or beeing influenced, espacially by a non hypnotist. that means, that it can cause real problems, getting gigs as magician or mentalist. beleave me, I know what I'm talking about. never mix hypnosis with magic. it doesen't work in long term. just my honest 5 swiss francs
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Creator of: STEEL (performed by Dynamo), X-RAY, Real Coin Bend (performed by Dynamo), Totally Crazy Bands, Rasmus Haunted Deck, MCF CARDS, Jawbreaker, CRAZY CARD CHANGE, POLTERGEIST, STEEL Stage Version, X-RAY Stage Version http://rasmusmagic.ch |
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writeall Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts |
I don't understand. Do people already have this? The release date is supposed to be in February?
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
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On 2012-12-13 21:20, rasmus wrote: Yes I know how hypnosis works. I perform hypnosis. I perform impromptu hypnosis using rapid induction techniques. And as I said, these effects don't rely purely on suggestion. They all have a factor or two in them that make it sure fire. And they work like a CHARM. So Ramsus, don't tell me what I do and do not know. And don't judge a DVD's material before you've ever seen it! |
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
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On 2012-12-13 21:22, writeall wrote: Fraser released this as an ebook through lybrary probably a year or so ago. But now they have removed it since they are making a DVD. |
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writeall Special user Midland, Michigan 930 Posts |
Thank you, MagicMaddy.
If I understand you correctly, these are things like the body mechanics stunts (pull my hands apart, now you can't) only based on magic themes? It seems odd that getting someone to believe in God or not could be done that way. But if you say they are "sure fire," I believe you. |
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
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On 2012-12-13 21:35, writeall wrote: It is really hard to describe. There isn't really a "trick" behind them. They are all based on extremely clever wording and such. |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
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Yes I know how hypnosis works. I perform hypnosis. I perform impromptu hypnosis using rapid induction techniques. And as I said, these effects don't rely purely on suggestion. They all have a factor or two in them that make it sure fire. And they work like a CHARM. So Ramsus, don't tell me what I do and do not know. And don't judge a DVD's material before you've ever seen it! [/quote] yes sure you do my friend there exists only impromptu hypnosis btw. you can't setup your spectator. and there is no need for any induction, if your spectator is the perfect medium. you say, theese effects don't rely purely on suggestion? so they do rely? but not purely? so this is a form of hypnosis as well, because hypnosis doesen't mean, that your medium is into sleep or trance for any suggestion to work properly. I had specs, that without any induction or sleeping suggestion were able, to achieve any illusion that I suggested. so that's why I believe, that this system is definetly not surefire and not 100%. there is no suggestion and no hypnosis tecnique out there, that is surefire or 100%. so then it is just an experiment, that's all. I knew one of the best hypnotists in europe. he had also guinnes books records. he also was never able, to hypnotise every spectator that he tried to. think about it my friend.
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Creator of: STEEL (performed by Dynamo), X-RAY, Real Coin Bend (performed by Dynamo), Totally Crazy Bands, Rasmus Haunted Deck, MCF CARDS, Jawbreaker, CRAZY CARD CHANGE, POLTERGEIST, STEEL Stage Version, X-RAY Stage Version http://rasmusmagic.ch |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Creator of: STEEL (performed by Dynamo), X-RAY, Real Coin Bend (performed by Dynamo), Totally Crazy Bands, Rasmus Haunted Deck, MCF CARDS, Jawbreaker, CRAZY CARD CHANGE, POLTERGEIST, STEEL Stage Version, X-RAY Stage Version http://rasmusmagic.ch |
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
Ramsus, THIS IS NOT HYPNOSIS. And "impromptu Hypnosis" is the hypnosis style. Such as "stage hypnosis." I know you don't set your spectator up. It is the name of the hypnosis I do. And if you aren't doing an induction... You arent doing hypnosis. It's just suggestion. Suggestion IS NOT the same thing as hypnosis.
And Ramsus, ONCE AGAIN, I have performed all 11 of these at least once (most of them I've performed 5-6 times) that makes about 60 performances where every single person worked perfectly... I perform for teenagers. They all aren't the "perfect medium" for hypnosis. And they are all very clever. YET it worked with 100% accuracy EVERY SINGLE TIME. Now I'm sure at some point it will go wrong. But as of now, its perfect. You can't change my look on True Mysteries. I know what it consists of and frankly, you don't. So stop talking as if you know. Unless you have read it, you don't know what it is. I will back this product up fully. |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
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On 2012-12-13 21:49, MagicMaddy wrote: magic maddy, nothing personal really. but your posting is the proof to me, that your hypnosis skills or knowledge is pretty at the beginning my friend. 1. suggestion is definetly hypnosis, because without any suggestion there doesen't exist hypnosis. 2. impromptu Hypnosis is jimpromtu, because there is no perfect way to setup anybody without any preshow work, that means to me: hypnosis is everytime you perform it an impromptu hypnosis, because there is no guarantee that it will work without pre hypnotised spectators. 3. you say, teenagers are not the perfect people for hypnosis because they are intelligent? totally wrong my friend. they are the best mediums for hypnosis in fact because they are intelligent. 4. YET it worked with 100% accuracy EVERY SINGLE TIME? never my friend. just words, that's all. 5. without getting to close my friend, but I suggest, you really take a look on good books about hypnosis, then you will instantly change your point of view. 6. you can't learn the real thing just with buying a dvd or a booklet. you have to get experience and that takes a long time my friend. 7. I'm not that sure, if your incredible positive statement about this product is really a guarantee for other magic Café members. but let them decide:) btw: after 60 (100% ) working performances, it would be very interesting, to see some footage of your performance and suggestion skills my friend, or shall I say hypnosis skills? or none of both?
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Creator of: STEEL (performed by Dynamo), X-RAY, Real Coin Bend (performed by Dynamo), Totally Crazy Bands, Rasmus Haunted Deck, MCF CARDS, Jawbreaker, CRAZY CARD CHANGE, POLTERGEIST, STEEL Stage Version, X-RAY Stage Version http://rasmusmagic.ch |
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
Ramsus, Ramsus, Ramsus...
1. I know that hypnosis needs suggestion and revolves around suggestion BUT suggestion doesn't need hypnosis to work. Therefore, suggest is not the same thing as hypnosis. suggestion may be PART of hypnosis but suggestion absolutely IS NOT hypnosis. 2. Once again, "Impromptu Hypnosis" is the performance style. I walk up to a random stranger and perform hypnosis. ONCE AGAIN I am fully aware that you don't need set up for hypnosis and the fact that you continually imply that I don't know is annoying. So stop. 3. I said the teenagers I perform for aren't "Perfect Medium." I never said anything about teenagers in general. Mine have seen me perform MANY hypnosis routines and MANY feats of magic/suggestion. Not saying I have never hypnotized any of them because I most certainly have. But it doesn't even matter because you don't need hypnosis for ANY of these routines. 4. YES, IT WORKED 100% OF THE TIME. What aren't you understanding about that statement? All of these routines are made for the soul purpose of producing an above average success rate. It is some clever wording, not all suggestion. 5. I have read reality is plastic and watched the Manchurian Approach. Done. 6. You just contradicted yourself. BUT I HAVE gone out and perform it. I perform hypnosis on a day to day basis at my school (I have been doing hypnosis for 2 years. I am no pro, but I CAN hypnotize.) 7. I honestly don't care what you think about my statement. I was simply stating my opinion on an incredible project that has made me completely re-think my performance style. If you don't like the project, then fine. Stop commenting on this thread and look at another one. No one is trying to force you to believe otherwise. And why would I randomly carry a video camera? I perform these "Stunts" when I'm asked to do something. Not at paid gigs.. YET. That being said, I will be teaching Psychology class next semester and I plan on using all of these routines during that class. I will most certainly get a video of them then. And here is a video of the first time I ever performed hypnosis on a complete stranger. (this is from June 3rd, 2010) I am now MUCH more confident and actually know what I'm doing. (In case you aren't able to do that math Ramsus, this video was taken 2 years ago.) Also, during this video I REALLY wanted to have some fun with suggestion but apparently this guy was on a school field trip and his teacher started screaming "It's time to go!" In the middle of my waking process so I just "woke" him up and continued on my way. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukI7SPQ7hsw Btw Ramsus, I'm finding what you are doing to be extremely rude and childish. You are calling me out on things that you don't even know. Please stop. You are purposefully trying to find things to disagree with me. You are trying to cause a flame war. I would appreciate it if you wouldn't. As a matter of fact, from now on, I will not reply to any of your messages nor will I even acknowledge them. I will just focus on the thread's topic and on the fantastic work within. |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
So now my friend, do you know what I mean? that was suggestion and finally I received
what I asked for, and you were influenced or better said hypnotized because of my words that you wrote. was it a suggestion? a challenge? hypnosis? you decide my friend. and now you post a video of you? that's the point my friend, think about it. btw: not bad your first performance. try to speak slower and relaxed, so your spectator will relax as well and feel, that you are secure in what you are doin'. wish you good luck with what you are doin' and please be aware of the responsibility that you have as a hypnotist. I forgot to mention: you say, that most of the teenagers that you performed for the 11 routines, were hypnotized by you before, so hypnotized ? suggestion? or both? think about it my son
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Creator of: STEEL (performed by Dynamo), X-RAY, Real Coin Bend (performed by Dynamo), Totally Crazy Bands, Rasmus Haunted Deck, MCF CARDS, Jawbreaker, CRAZY CARD CHANGE, POLTERGEIST, STEEL Stage Version, X-RAY Stage Version http://rasmusmagic.ch |
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MagicMaddy Special user 516 Posts |
ANYWAY Zombie, you won't be disappointed with this. If you want to do what the ad copy says then this is absolutely for you. I honestly never would have seen myself performing these until I read how diabolical they were then I knew I HAD to do them.
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2012-12-13 22:48, MagicMaddy wrote: Thanks Maddy. When it gets released, I'll pick it up! |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
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On 2012-12-13 22:48, MagicMaddy wrote: diabolical? what? the suggestions or word games that you will learn? honestly magicmaddy, is this really what you think about that? a new way to influence other people without any hypnosis or suggestions? I don't know why you are so into this, because you're the only one here that reviews a product, that nobody before had his hands on this. have you really received a review copy? honestly? I can't believe that, sorry. I don't think, that everybody must have the ability to hypnotize other people, just to satisfy his own ego. hypnosis is something exceptionally for professionals IMO. just my 5 swiss francs my friend
A World without Magic is a World without Dreams and Hope:)
Creator of: STEEL (performed by Dynamo), X-RAY, Real Coin Bend (performed by Dynamo), Totally Crazy Bands, Rasmus Haunted Deck, MCF CARDS, Jawbreaker, CRAZY CARD CHANGE, POLTERGEIST, STEEL Stage Version, X-RAY Stage Version http://rasmusmagic.ch |
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