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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-12-26 09:53, magicfish wrote: Just to clarify my last post, it applies to BOTH groups and individuals. I didn't mean that it applies only to individuals, but rather ("first and foremost") that it initially applies (applied) to individuals, THEN it applies to groups, but whether or not it appllies to groups is dependent on whether or not it applies to the individuals. We don't say, for instance, "giraffes are herbivores" and only THEN study these tall things with the long necks to see if they qualify; we start with the individual giraffes - we study what they eat, and the results of that study are added to our pool of knowledge about giraffes the group. When I said we're omnivores as a group, I wasnt implying that we all were. By way of analogy, If offensive baseball players were carnivores, defensive players were herbivores, and pitchers who hit (like Babe Ruth back in the day) were omnivores, we'd say that the Yankees as a group were omnivores - they have offensive and defensive players. But at doesn't mean that the individuals players are BOTH offensive and defensive. The word applies to the group AS A RESULT of how it applies to the individual. The dog wags the tail. To do it the other way, again, is to say that an eagle without wings can fly, because we know that eagles as a group can fly. I understand and appreciate that you reject my dictionary's definition, but before we agreed to disagree, I wanted to clarify, because I think my previous post was a little ambiguous.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-12-26 12:21, balducci wrote: I sent a Twitter greeting to Muhammad Ali! I love Boxing Day!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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foreva.infiniti Regular user 6 Posts a + a 6 Posts = 116 Posts |
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Really? And hey guys lets just leave magicfish alone. He/she wont be swayed regardless of facts. Kinda like global warming deniers. Its not a slight to you "MF" (he he).
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tommy Eternal Order Devil's Island 16544 Posts |
Is it cold or is just me?
If there is a single truth about Magic, it is that nothing on earth so efficiently evades it.
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foreva.infiniti Regular user 6 Posts a + a 6 Posts = 116 Posts |
Its just me
Colors are Foreva. Numbers are Infinite. 4 every number there's a color. HEY! Eternity! Lets smoke a beer and drink some loud. But wait! I heard you was a six a plus a 6 ahhhh.
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w_s_anderson Inner circle The United States 1226 Posts |
Foreva, did you just call someone an MF? LOL
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2012-12-25 17:01, mastermindreader wrote: I consider myself enlightened.
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
Not sure if this was mentioned or not
http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-yor......dex.html Sure they had every legal right to publish this, but it wasn't responsible of them to do so. This gives every criminal in that area names and addresses if where they might be able to break into a home once the homeowners have left to score a gun or two. How stupid was the editor to allow this? I'd be po'd!! Also, it allows the criminals to know which homes most likely DON'T have a gun in the home. If I was in that category, if be po'd as well! I can pull up the shades in my large bay window in the front of my house and prop up a few guns in the window with a neon sign that says GUNS and that would be perfectly legal. But that would be totally irresponsible and ignorant of me to do so. Likewise with these morons posting up this information for all to easily see. Their agenda? I'm not sure but it seems that they don't support people having guns IMO http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/26/gutfel......t-marks/
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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Andrew Zuber Inner circle Los Angeles, CA 3014 Posts |
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On 2012-12-26 09:17, Mr. Mystoffelees wrote: You made it in just under the wire for post of the year on the Café. Well done sir.
"I'm sorry - if you were right, I would agree with you." -Robin Williams, Awakenings
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2012-12-27 11:50, lunatik wrote: They did the same thing about five or so years ago. Was there any fall out from that? I have not heard of any.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
If I were a gun owner in the area, I think I'd dig up every piece of public information about the publisher I could find and plaster it all over the internet as much as I could.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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Woland Special user 680 Posts |
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If I were a gun owner in the area, I think I'd dig up every piece of public information about the publisher I could find and plaster it all over the internet as much as I could. At your service right here, sir. |
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
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On 2012-12-27 18:33, balducci wrote: We may never know. Would a criminal give up his source of information for future crimes? Probably not. With the recent events, things are more at the forefront than they were 5 yrs ago. Irregardless, there was no reason for them to post up everyone's name and address on the internet. There are many things that are public record (speeding/parking ticket etc..) that you probably wouldn't want posted on the internet with a map to find you. There's no viable reason for this company to post it up except that it's the Media and in general, a bunch of boneheads.
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
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On 2012-12-27 19:16, LobowolfXXX wrote: I almost like that idea. However, as we move toward a panopticon society - perhaps a live video feed from each weapon with GPS might serve.
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ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
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On 2012-12-27 20:16, lunatik wrote: Wouldn't we be able to check the police records to see if there had been an increase in reported gun thefts right after the previous posting[q]
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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lunatik Inner circle 3222 Posts |
Quite possibly. And you may be able to see if there was a decrease in burglaries amongst those homes that have guns, also seeing if there was an increase in homes without guns.
"Don't let your Dreams become Fantasies"
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2012-12-28 11:11, lunatik wrote: If that were the case, if there was such a decrease / increase, you can bet that the right wing media would be all over it. As nothing happened last time, it is safe to bet that nothing will happen this time either. More outrage over nothing, another distraction. IMO, of course.
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27297 Posts |
? able to check police records?
they do epidemiology?
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LobowolfXXX Inner circle La Famiglia 1196 Posts |
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On 2012-12-28 12:17, balducci wrote: So it would be a non-issue to you if personal information about you were published in the local newspaper without your knowledge or consent, as long as it came from an accessible public record?
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley. "...as we reason and love, we are able to hope. And hope enables us to resist those things that would enslave us." |
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balducci Loyal user Canada 227 Posts |
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On 2012-12-28 13:58, LobowolfXXX wrote: I am a public figure, and so they have and do. It is a non-issue insomuch as there is nothing I can really do about it. Crybabies want to whine about that sort of thing, that is their choice. If there is a problem, it is not with the newspaper publishing the information; it is with the information being publicly accessible in the first place. Hold on a minute, though, let us be clear that we are talking about PUBLICLY available 'personal' information. The newspaper article in question did not pubish any personal information that was not publicly available. Indeed, the newspaper was denied some of the information it requested: County clerks' offices had told the paper that "the public does not have the right to see specific permits an individual has been issued, the types of handguns a person possesses or the number of guns he or she owns."
Make America Great Again! - Trump in 2020 ... "We're a capitalistic society. I go into business, I don't make it, I go bankrupt. They're not going to bail me out. I've been on welfare and food stamps. Did anyone help me? No." - Craig T. Nelson, actor.
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