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Dynamike
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I was thinking Dan Harlan for years. I'm not sure now after I saw Russ Niedzwiecki's Pinnacle. He uses a spectator's ring and a rubber band. He teaches how to give the rountine 4 phases, and all are amazing. I had to purchase his DVD at the Motor City close-up convention

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I still vote for Dan Harlan. He changed the whole world of rubber band magic.

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On 2003-11-11 06:44, HiraseMagic wrote:
I still vote for Dan Harlan. He change the whole world of rubberband magic.

Hirase

I have to agree to that statement, but I think Michael Ammar's Crazy Man's Handcuffs is still my number one effect when it comes to rubber band magic.
I have also purchased Pinnacle, and will tell you how it is when it arrives.
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Dan Harlan and Russ Niedzwicki.
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Interesting Logic.

Michael Ammar did not invent CMH, he just published the correct way to do the effect. (Tarbell had it wrong).

Russ may very well be the best. I don't know I've only seen him perform one band trick!

If one amazing trick is enough to qualify, you left out Chris Kenner, Simon Aronson and Jeff Pierce to name but a few. (There are others I have HEARD of and never seen/unfamiliar with which I cannot rank).

I do not believe Pinnacle tops any of the ones I've mentioned. I do believe that all of these are miracle class type effects, but is that enough for the creator to achieve King of the Bands status? Hmmm...

It would be like saying Reed McClintock is the best cardman because he came up with a killer twisting effect.

I would have to say, and forgive my igrnorance, that Dan Harlan wins this title in my book. This by no means implies that I think he is the best inventor, just the most versatile rubberband man I know about.

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In my opinion, Harlan is the most prolific, so I agree with Decker, but I also believe that other magicians have created stronger rubber band effects, including Kenner and Moden.

Larry D.

P.S. - Unlike Decker, I don't think that ANY rubber band effect is in the miracle class.
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I would say Ammar, just a fab performer, gentleman, and person in general. I really like his story. You know what, he could be watching now. Perhaps we should all speak good of him.

I really like Russ's Pinacle, but get MUCH better reactions around magicians, not quite sure why, and I have worked a way to get the final miracle stage to work in ALL situations, and it is hand "outable" for them to keep.

Of course, I do not use a borrowed ring for this, rather a keyring. I spend a while threading them on the night before, and I ask to borrow a keyring, and then give them a keyring on band to keep after the miracle. Stuns them in their pants.
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That is a great idea! I was trying to find a solution like this, using hardware parts but I couldn't think of a good reason for it at all, but this works!

The only problem with it is removing the emotional tie, and the fact that a borrowed ring is unquestionably unique. But I do believe it would still kill.

Larry-
When I really think about it I agree. But When I think about actual miracle class effects... there are very few of them, and they have nothing to do with coins, cards or bands. Band effects can be as powerful as coin or cardwork, and I do all three (and more!)
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Dan Harlan's rubberband library is fantastic. Get the tapes. Smile
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On 2003-11-12 07:35, Decker wrote:
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...When I think about actual miracle class effects... there are very few of them...


I agree with you on that as well. In fact, while I have decades of experience and consider myself to be a pretty good magician, there's only one effect I perform that I'd consider to be in the miracle class.

Regards, Larry D.
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...When I think about actual miracle class effects... there are very few of them...


Larry,

Your statement is begging someone to ask the inevitable question. Considered it asked.

I agree with you on that as well. In fact, while I have decades of experience and consider myself to be a pretty good magician, there's only one effect I perform that I'd consider to be in the miracle class.

Regards, Larry D.
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Therntier,

I didn't provide details of the particular effect because it's an original effect and wouldn't mean anything to those reading the posting, particularly because even with detailed plans, it would cost you thousands of dollars to put the effect together (that's how much it cost me and there's no cheaper alternative).

What puts it in the miracle class in my opinion is not the sterile effect but the methods that I use to accomplish the effect - - those methods make the outward appearance of the effect unlike the outward appearance of similar effects.

Maybe I could explain myself better with an analogy. If I told you the effect was to make a coin vanish, that would be the sterile effect, and those who read that posting would think, "Big deal, I know 100's of methods for making a coin vanish." But if I told you that the methods I used allowed a spectator to hold any coin and to stare at it at which point the coin would slowly dematerialize in the spectator's hand, like a person being transported in a Star Trek episode, I think you'd agree that the methods I used for the particular coin vanish made the outward appearance of the vanish unlike the outward appearance of any other coin vanish.

By the way, that was just an analogy, my miracle effect isn't making a coin dematerialize, and if anyone knows how to do that, please share!

My original posting wasn't an attempt to pat myself on the back. On the contrary, it's humbling to realize that after decades of experience performing magic, I perform only one effect in the miracle class. My original posting was just an attempt to state that not many tricks belong in the miracle class in my mind, rubber band or otherwise.

Back on topic, two of the strongest rubber band effects out there (but not miracles in my opinion) are Kenner's version in Totally Out of Control and Moden's Ebony and Ivory.

Best regards, Larry Davidson
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Dan Harlan has the most videos on rubberbands, however this does not make him the best.
I would say he is the king of the bands.

vinny

Larry I agree with you on Chris Kenner's Missing link.It is one of the best if not the very best rubberband effect,and it is impromptu.
Ebony and ivory as well as linked for life are gimmicked .
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Another vote for Dan Harlan!
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What about JOE RINDFLEISCH
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Doug, I was just going to mention Joe. Joe or Dan? Toss up.
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Yes, let's make that a third nod to Joe. I've seen him do very strong link/unlinks and some other effects that are quite striking... so much so that I'm not going to offer ANY descriptions.

Joe seems to look at rubber bands in about the way David Roth looks at coins. He's exploring the options of the props.
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I'd say it's Joe!
If you've spent any time with him, you can see that he creates magic at about the same rate that most of us breathe!
Next time you see him - ask him to break and restore a band the way a 'real' magician (or as he says god) would - amazing!!!

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I'm not sure I agree with Larry. I have put together a band routine that spectators agree is in the miracle class. The routine does include pinnacle towards the end now because it's so strong. It's all about presentation and I think everyone here will agree with me on this. Self fulfilling prophecy I guess, if you don't like rubberband magic and don't think of it as a miracle yourself then neither will your audience. I'll never forget the first time I saw Harlan work or Russ either. Blew my mind away I knew I had to start toying with the bands. I've done alot of work with them and they've paid off 10 fold. Just my thoughts!
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On 2003-11-13 08:47, Larry Davidson wrote:

Back on topic, two of the strongest rubber band effects out there (but not miracles in my opinion) are Kenner's version in Totally Out of Control and Moden's Ebony and Ivory.



Where can I find these routines, Larry?
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