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OKAY!!!!!
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P.s. Why didn't Jan give his 98 percent accurate opinion on this then early on? (I might have learned something!!!)
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Not everyone feel the urge to give his opinion on every (crap)trick that comes out every 30 seconds of the day.
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It does not look like a "crap trick" to me. It is a very poor demonstrations, as I read many of the posts on reviews, that is exactly what everyone wants. A lousy demo so you can tell the working of the trick. That is exactly what you received.

This one card haunted card effect was created some 30 years ago. Everyone at the time went bonkers over it just because the deck could be handed out or used in another un-gaffed deck trick. If memory serves me correct, it was Eugene Burger that come up with the release of the gimmick from the deck.

I read some complaints that this version is not worth the price. The remote key fob is certainly worth the price. A Ring To Key fob is currently selling for double the asking price of this gimmick. The retractable gimmick is a very good idea to this trick.

The original Haunted Deck was the cutting of 3 cards, not just one. It was also best performed standing with onlookers standing as well.

Vernet's version is workable if performed correctly, if it can't be performed standing, then it is useless to anyone. A lot also has more to do with the initial setup of the gimmick with the deck. If one cannot begin the trick easily, then why bother.

I did not read anything about if the remote device worked as it should. If it does, then it is worth the price, as I have handled several IT reels that don't get off their 1st use.
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Yes, Eugene Burger worked on it long time ago, taking Al Bakers system, which is far older, and improved it. While you can not easily use a borrowed deck it is an ordinary deck which you can use before and after, and you can hand it out. You can "produce" everything necessary by yourself, spending only cents or pennies. I have seen Eugene perform it in Vienna around 20 years ago. Then it got my attention and interest. Jan
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I purchased this about 10 years ago when it was released as Phantom Deck. I have used it quite often in walk around and have found it to be a very workable method for this effect. It is pretty bullet proof (at least the old version is), relatively easy to do, no lighting restrictions, uses a regular deck, can be repeated, ends totally clean. I have stated on older threads on haunted decks it was one of my favorite methods (and I have tried most of them). Was actually a little disappointed when it was re-released as hardly anyone knew about. However with some of these extreme negative reviews I guess I have nothing to worry about. Smile

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Received it today and I like it. The r..l is well made and smooth. The fact that it is designed like a car remote is a plus. If you need for any reason to take it out of your pocket or to empty your pocket, it will go unnoticed. Also, the size is important as it acts like an anchor in your pocket. The DVD is als owell made and has different live performances and complete explanations. IT also comes with a matchbox taht is used for the animated matchbox routien which is performed and also explained. I am glad I purchased it and would recommend it.

As a side note, I am surprised that so many people got so excited and upset as a result of one negative review by someone who only has 25 posts. I am not in anyway demaning the value of that person's opinion. Whether a person has 1 post or 1,000 posts, that person's opinion should be respected and valued and considered. But the weight of consideration given should be measured to some degree based upon the person's previous participation as a reviewer and the person's knowledge and credibility. I think thsi is a well designed gimmick which does the job it is meant to do. The dvd is professionally made and the matchbox and matchbox routine is an added feature giving it added value. I got it based upon it receiving worker of the week. I am glad I purchased it and did not rely soley on one person's negative review not to get it. I am not dissapointed in it. I would recommend it but again that is my opinion and others may differ.

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On 2013-01-18 06:21, drorwis wrote:
Some of us jan are not working magicians but hobbysts.
we would like to perform an occasional trick and that's about it.
Therefore we usually just buy tricks without knowing the complete
history of the use of ITR or the origins of the haunted deck.
remind me to ask you next time you edit your home video on your pc
if your'e familiar with the works of Eisenstein, podovkin or maybe dziga vertov...
I don't think that even someone who performs occasinally for friends, deserves
an overpriced gimmick.
we hobbysts tend to sometime believe the adds, and we don't all
have the tools to judge from the trailer that there is nothing new here.
If, as you say, you could tell that it's no good or that there is nothing
new here, how about posting your thoughts on that, rather than make condescending
and cynical remarks?
I, for one, would appreciate it a lot more.


I do not think Jan's remark was either condescending or cynical. Yours, however was rather aggressive and arrogant for a person with 25 posts!
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Magicmarworldwide2 and drorwis are two relatively new members who are trying to make a name for themselves here.

I for one won't be paying too much attention to what either one says for the time being. However, let's see how they develop as they involve themselves in Café discussion proper.

Jan obviously made a joke about the prop having batteries. Anyone who took his point seriously really should take a look at themselves before criticising him.
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Yes and thanks, but now please let us go back to the topic Smile. Jan
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Hey guys,

I am not trying to make a name for myself. Jamie, you'll be sad to hear my review had no alterior motive, was not written to get attention, spark an argument or anger people. Instead, it was my personal and honest review based on the product I'd bought and my experience in magic. Yes it was sensationalist, but that's what I am like as a person.... I knew this would happen on here, that's why I stated in big bold letters THIS IS JUST MY OPINION - I DON'T LIKE IT!!!!!!!. It's ironic how, people ask for reviews of a product, and when you give one it receives so much 'bad press'. I've noticed though, it's only a few people like the narrow minded Jamie Ferguson who try to stir up trouble by calling me out... the majority of people are actually really respectful.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I know the truth about this product because I've bought it. And, I feel *** warm inside knowing I've SAVED a load of GOOD PEOPLE a lot of wasted money!!!!! I will continue to say how it is and give *** honest review on everything I buy. IF PEOPLE want to listen to one review - MAGICMARKWORLDWIDE2 and make their decision, that's up to them!

Personally, I know my review was, *** spot on. I wish Jamie Ferguson would buy this and give us his opinion before calling me out Smile


OH, and for the record.................. nope, I AM NOT a new member. I have been a regular member of the Café for 2 years. My previous accounts - I forgot the passwords and got locked out. Why do you think I've got a 2 on the end of my name huh? Yep, there was a MAGICMARKWORLDWIDE and a MAGICMARKWORLDWIDE1 before me..... Smile


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Mark mate - you've no need to justify yourself to me. Your long membership here, under any guise, will remind you of some of the outright tools in here that we have to put up with.

People who judge others on their post-count or length of membership want shooting!

Relaaaax buddy!
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Attacking other Café members demonstrates a level of maturity that won't garner much respect I'm afraid magicmarkworldwide2. Let's hope future posts show a bit more respect to long standing members who have contributed much here.

Now let's do as Jan suggests and get back on topic please.
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If you take a look at my initial "batteries" reaction, you can tell
I wasn't very upset with it, as my reaction was "batteries aside ;-)".
what bothered me was Jan's response that added "Some knowledge by reading
more books and buying less tricks would save many people a lot of money".
while the intention might be helpful, it came across to me as a little
condesending, as there is a a thing as a hobbyst. hobbyst just buys an
occasional trick and it is a legitimate practice.if you either a hobbyst
or just starting you way in the magic world, you know very little as for
the working of a lot of effects out there. still I don't think that the
right way of helping you is making fun of your little knowledge, and
I don't think remarks like: "Anyone who took his point seriously really
should take a look at themselves before criticising him" is of any help.
I don't see why I should take a look at myself for not having the knowledge
that a more experienced magician has.
I beleive that Jan understood the point I as making, so he apologized, which was very
big of him, and that's it.
Jan, if my remarke came across as very aggresive, I do appologize for that,
I do hope to learn from your experience in the future.
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Great post drorwis.

magicmarkworldwide2 could learn a lot from you.
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I might not be the most experienced, or longest serving poster here.... but one thing I do know....
...Nobody likes Jamie Ferguson.
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I will rise above personal attacks from newbies to get this thread back on topic as originally requested by Jan.

Here goes.

Page 97 of the Bertram book contains he exact same method as is being offered here. The book is 2/3 of the price and rather than teaching you tricks will teach you magic, a lot of magic.

The lesson here is to invest in books not to buy every new trick that promises the earth.

Unfortunately, I doubt many will take my advice in the quest for instant gratification promised by the latest and greatest.
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Yes, real secrets are often found buried in books, not in Real Secrets and suchlike. Smile
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Real Secrets material actually makes for good bookmarks. So the two are complementary.

Now back to the topic at hand - the merits and demerits of Anima.
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