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John Mazza Special user 664 Posts 
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On 2013-01-26 15:44, Richard Kaufman wrote: What you guys don't realize that Richard Kaufman played a detective on TV in the late 70's all along while writing his magic books. I think the detective in him will get some new info on the T-Number questions.  |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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SShhhh! Don't tell anyone that. It's also not true, however I was once part of a famous singing duo (my partner was Daryl Hall).
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John Mazza Special user 664 Posts
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If people have told you that you look like John Oates then maybe they told you that you look like BaBaBooey!
BaBaBooey to all you Tenyo crazies out there. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Bababooey |
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Houdini103126 Elite user 407 Posts
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On 2013-01-17 00:31, Richard Kaufman wrote: Richard, A couple of additional suggestions to what I have already posted. 1. You might want to set up a companion web site (or simply point to tenyo.co.jp) to accompany the book for future Tenyo tricks/addendums. Really, if you think about it, the tenyo site is already set up for this as their site is always updated with their newest tricks. Furthermore, it increases Tenyo site traffic by pointing readers to the site for product updates. Perhaps even Tenyo can carve out a new section on their site for this. Of course, I think we all hope to see a link to Davy's site somewhere 
2. Since there is so much Disney integration, what about a section for Disney Tenyo? I can personally see this book being sold at every Disneyland throughout the world. 3. It would be nice to see detailed creator bios and listings of their tricks on their respective bio page. 4. Though an added cost, how about a companion CD to include video performances and/or instruction sheets in a sealed jacket in the book so someone can't just come up and read the book for instructions? 5. Do you plan on covering Tenyo one-offs (a la Doug Henning branded Tenyo)? 6. Perhaps some commentary by Jim Steinmeyer might be included? 7. For "Rare" or "Scarce" tricks, it would be neat to see how the trick became discontinued or difficult to obtain? |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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Houdini103126: Yes, I have already had many of the same thoughts.
But only an eBook can be an internet-linked interactive experience. And many's the time I've read about some web site in a book, only to discover that it was long gone! So, it's important to consider that the book is not a time capsule of this particular moment, but a reference work that must still be relevant long into the future and not seem dated in any way. In 25 years, the only thing that should give away the fact that the book is over 2 decades old is what the last trick (T-number) is that's included. However, I've also thought of ways around that issue. 
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John Mazza Special user 664 Posts
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2. Since there is so much Disney integration, what about a section for Disney Tenyo? I can personally see this book being sold at every Disneyland throughout the world. This is a very good idea and should increase book sales. Plus I think Richard K. is a Disneyana collector as are many other in the field of magic. The Disney section is interesting to us Tenyo enthusiasts and at the same time incorporating something interesting to a very viable collectors market. |
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John Mazza Special user 664 Posts
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I would like to see a page with all the various logos and rabbits they used over the years. Might make a cool poster as well.
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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Yes, John, all good ideas and already on my list.
The listing of a companies logos and they years used is a common part of any sort of collector's manual. As to the Disney/Tenyo--there's so much compared to the relatively small amount of T-numbers that it's staggering. Have any of you ever seen the Midas Machine rethemed to Mickey? I saw it once, and that was at the moment it came out of a box and some guy grabbed it and bought it for $10. Tenyo did a lot of Disney-branded items that were originally T numbers when Tokyo Disneyland opened in 1983 and in subsequent years. I am now establishing some contacts in Japan to help track down this material. However, no Disney resort will be interested in selling this book. It's not their type of thing. You can't even buy Tenyo tricks anymore at the Mitsukoshi Department store in Epcot's World Showcase, but they used to have a good-sized selection for sale along with a TV demonstrating the items. While it might seem like a relatively straightforward book, it's actually quite complicated and will require extensive traveling and detective work. At the moment, I'm working on the assumption that the book will sell in very small quantities. Just because several thousand people want to buy new Tenyo tricks each year, that doesn't mean they have any desire to purchase an expensive book about them. My job is to balance the production of the book against its potential sales, which is always a crap shoot. |
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mirror mate Regular user 142 Posts
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Richard you can count me in. I will definately be purchasing the book whatever the price warm regards M M.
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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I've been corresponding with Tenyo and setting up various interviews and so on. You can all be of help.
In my interview with each creator, there may be specific questions about particular tricks that don't occur to me, but are perhaps obvious and you may have already thought of them. So, if you could start listing in this thread any specific questions you have about specific tricks, I will have direct access to many of the people who created these tricks and can ask them directly. It can be a simple question like: "What inspired you to create this" to "why doesn't this effect seem to function properly." For example, when I interviewed Mr. Sugawara, I did ask about "Money Shredder" and mentioned that people seemed to have trouble doing it deceptively. He said he didn't understand what the problem was. I rewatched some YouTube videos of the trick last night and to me it seems that the important subtlety of exactly how and when you move the string to above the bill is missing from those demonstrations. If I had the "Money Shredder" prop with me, then I could have asked Sugawara to play with it and see if he remembered exactly what he intended. Hopefully a second interview will be possible. Another example is the noise certain props make. I'll delve into that with the creators and find out what is going on there. So, what are YOUR questions about specific tricks? |
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John Mazza Special user 664 Posts
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On Money Shredder I recently realized that it was released with two different cords.
A gold cord and a purple cord. The purple cord is thinner and seems to be a bid more corse. I am guessing that the gold cord came first and then they replaced it with the purple cord. For sure a thinner/corse cord will shred better than a thicker/smooth cord. But possibly the cord change may have simply been a supply issue. As usual Stereo has done a good job of documenting Tenyo and you can see both cords on his site. http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.com/2010/05/......der.html I am now imagining you all running to your cabinets/drawers/boxes to see what color cord you have. ;-) |
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ChasVH Loyal user 266 Posts
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I don't know how I missed this thread but put me on the list for a book Richard. Cant wait for when you finish it. I am sure it will be a hit as anyone that has a smallest interest level in Magic has heard of Tenyo for sure (I understand that doesn't translate into sales). But being such and Icon (Tenyo.... and you of course) in the industry one would think that every serious collector would buy one. I wish you all the best and put me down.
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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That's very interesting, John. I will have to ask about that. I'm more concerned if there's an artful and deceptive way to get the string above the bill without it being obvious the way it is in the videos on YouTube.
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts
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Thank you for this information John, I have updated the blog. I never noticied that !
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magic patagonia Special user 570 Posts
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I just got Sun & Moon tubes....it was a missing item in my collection....I wasn't very interesting in it before because it is an old effect reissued by Tenyo.
Now that I got it I'm very pleased....props are very well made and very well thinked....also the size (bigger than the classic effect) allows you for a wider range of routines. I was surprised to see a very interesting "rice bowls" routine option created by Richard Kaufman and Tomoyuki Shimomura.....do you have more collaborations like this with other Tenyo effects?....it would be interesting to know the history behind that. |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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Sometimes I see Tenyo items before the English-language instructions are written by Steve Cohen. In that case, the Rice Bowl idea just popped into my head and I emailed it to Shimomura-san, and Tenyo liked it enough to print it in the English instructions (I don't believe it's in the Japanese instructions unless they added it when they reprinted, which is unlikely).
I write about the new line of Tenyo items each year in Genii. Sometimes I have a thought--this year it was about the coaster. I realized that if you bought four of them, you could use them as normal coasters in your home. If you put a different coin in each of the four coasters (penny, nickle, dime, quarter) then you could display four coins, allow a spectator choose one, and then use the proper coaster to actually do the trick. Note that I have not tried this to see how a coin of lesser weight, such as a dime or penny, would work, but theoretically it should be good. |
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John Mazza Special user 664 Posts
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I believe that Stereo wrote here on the Café that he would like to have four of this years Magic Coasters in his home to use when he had company.
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts
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I had the same idea that Richard when I received the Coaster. It is a good idea because it allows you to choose a piece at random, but why not do it a second time with another guest.
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts
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I wouldn't do it a second time--it might invite the two remaining spectators to take a closer look at their coasters. If someone shakes it, the noise will give away the fact that there's a coin inside.
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts
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Good point !
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