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[quote]On 2013-02-27 15:00, Bande wrote:
While I understand the dissapointment, I must say it seemed clear to me that a dealer cannot ship flammable materials through the mail (at least in the US) so I expected just a "how to" guide. Agree they should have stated it, but not terribly surprised that you have to procure materials. My gut is it might make more sense for the professional than the hobbyist sinec a professional might make a bunch of gimmicks all at once where someone like myself would likely use 1-2 at most per week. Just my $.02 Smile

[I could not agree more, the effect is likely to appeal to professionals who will use it regularly and will therefore see the value in spending time and effort, not only in preparing the props but also in transporting the effect which needs some care. At least one other contributor who asked if refills will be easily obtainable was under the impression as was I that the props would be provided with the effect.

In hindsight it may have been naive of me to expect flammable materials to be supplied via the UK postal service. However, I feel that the description of the effect and the professional reviewers should have made it clear that no props are provided. If anyone wants a cheap copy of Combustion please PM me.

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Does the setup for combustion last indefinitely or do I have to perform it within for example an hour since it's been prepped
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How combustable is this once prepped for performance?

Thanks,
Dan.
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On 2013-02-28 06:46, Bondy wrote:
Does the setup for combustion last indefinitely or do I have to perform it within for example an hour since it's been prepped


Great question Bondy. I was wondering the same thing.
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On 2013-02-27 17:57, Stephen Young wrote:
Although the preparation seems to be a long winded process, I choose to see this as a positive thing.There will be a lot of people who won't put in he necessary effort, meaning there will be very few people performing it.

Steve


Plus just how expensive this is. Not many at all I would imagine.
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I like the look of this but have a few questions for anyone who owns it. The demo implies a match is lit, blown out, which then magically relights. Is this the case or is a substitution required?

Also is this an old effect repurposed, or is it completely new thinking?

My last question is to do with contamination and storage, do I need to store it carefully after set-up and will I need to wash my hands straight after performing?

I just want to say this looks wonderful but would be very grateful if anyone is able to answer these questions (and the ones above, exactly what I wa thinking!)
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On 2013-02-27 17:57, Stephen Young wrote:
Although the preparation seems to be a long winded process, I choose to see this as a positive thing.There will be a lot of people who won't put in he necessary effort, meaning there will be very few people performing it.

Steve


Steve,
Not to be a nooge, but will you post if you ever get this to work as well as shown in the video?
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So it doesn't work as advertised?
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I wouldlove to see a review too. my guess is that there is a necessary delay in the lit match blown out and the handing of the magical match to the spectator.
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On 2013-02-15 10:48, DougNicols wrote:

One of the chemicals is extremely dangerous. If you forget to wash your hands and scratch your eye or something you're screwed.


No dangerous chemicals are used. My only concern is the prep time & effort involved.

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On 2013-02-28 11:46, pegasus wrote:

So it doesn't work as advertised?


It works as advertised (WYSIWYG) provided you follow the instructions on the DVD. The effect is worthwhile if you are willing to put in the time & efforts.

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On 2013-03-04 22:58, Ustaad wrote:
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On 2013-02-15 10:48, DougNicols wrote:
One of the chemicals is extremely dangerous. If you forget to wash your hands and scratch your eye or something you're screwed.

No dangerous chemicals are used. My only concern is the prep time & effort involved.


I guess everyone has their own definition of "dangerous chemicals".
The chemical I and many others here have in mind ("P.P.") has the following EU classification (according to Wikipedia):

  • Oxidant (O)
  • Harmful (Xn)
  • Dangerous for the environment (N)


I know you guys are quick to consider a question "fishing", but I'd like to know whether or not this uses "P.P."
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There are a lot of questions being asked, that I would also like to know the answer to.

Surely somebody that has this could chime in Smile
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Once more into the fray. Blackpool finished a couple of weeks ago. Surely someone has the product and tried to make it work as shown?

Have the used copies started showing up for resale yet? Sans a user report, that's the only other metric I can think of.
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Looks good but I would like to know if the relight timing can be controled or not.
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My guess is the delay is due to getting extra stuff, likely not easily available. those that are willing to give a true try, may not have collected the bits to put it together.
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I have it...

Though there is a disclaimer and the teaching is done in one take, I do think it has its dangers...

No measurements of any kind, 'some' or 'so that its wet' is not a good sign... Nor is suggesting doing something with some sandpaper over newspaper...

Not even a suggestion of carrying it all in a tobacco tin for safety's sake...

Its all taught, but if you want precise detail and safety tips...look elsewhere.

Not for me. Nor for my scientist friend who was more than a little shocked.

The effect works, the procedure works...just....risky in my opinion

and the ruination of dragging aristotle through a pub gig made me a little sad inside...as did the idea of asking someone to dredge up a real moment of anger...

Just my views...
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And I'd love a refund...but not asked yet...
I've asked to be banned
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Well, there is a reluctance to doing this....due to safety concerns and "imperfect" instructions....
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This sounds interesting, whether new or not.

However, I am interested in the book "Chemical Magic". I tried to find it on the internet, but I came up with several hits. Can anyone tell me the author of this particular book referred to in this thread?

Thanks,

KJ
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I have an ebook of Chemical Magic by Leonard Ford
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