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I am looking for a table made for use with C&B that is fairly light weight but very sturdy. Also want to be able to fold it up and pack it away quickly. If when collapsed It could hold a set of cups it would be ideal.
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Check out Bill Abbott's Pack Smart Table.

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I have been looking for a cup and ball table but one with a little like one inch lip so the balls so not roll off the table.
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Check out this table. It has rails on the side
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Check out this table from Doug Ries. It even has a place to store the loads for the cups & balls. I've seen this table in person & it is well built & sturdy.

Check out the online demo as well.

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Check out the Large Busker's Table sold by Frank Starsinic at The Ambitious Card website. Frank's a cool guy:
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On 2013-02-25 12:25, wonderbob wrote:
I have been looking for a cup and ball table but one with a little like one inch lip so the balls so not roll off the table.

Check out Wonder's table top! Smile
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Bill Abbott's Pack Smart Table is nice. I was also looking at this table as well
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The flipdisc tables get my vote.
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I've been using a table made by this company for years. They modified one of their designs for me and added a lip. Great work, affordable and easy to set up and transport.
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I built an Ammar table and just adjusted the design to fit my needs. It's easy to attach a storage drawer to the underside. Basic plan is on his site for $8.95 download.
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Wondrbob... I would recommend that you seriously consider adding your lip around your table using thin (1/4 inch) strip edging *the kind used for covering the edges of formica shelves (bought at home depot type hardware store. Instead of covering the table edge, adhere it around the top surface of the table, along its perimeter, to create the lip. Hope this is clear. Spun aluminum metal (shelving-edge) strips can be cut at 45 degrees to go around the perimeter of your table. A professional Frame shop could also put a metal frame around the edges of your table top, in a way so that the metal frame protrudes above the table top surface 1/4 ". It will serve you well for your cups and balls routine. I have created and used these types of table for my own C & B for more than 20 years with full satisfaction. Hope this helps. Good luck! Bill Abbott's second generation Pack Smart Table is superb and I will be purchasing one (I already have his first PST model) and will add the edging I need myself to create the lip I desire for my cups and balls. Actually a friend who is a skilled craftsman will add the edging/lip.

As mentioned, a professional frame shop could do this as well. Good luck!
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Check out the Speed Table Pro 2.0. Not cheap but definitely the Rolls Royce of tables for sure.
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Folks haven't mentioned the InStand Table. Very versatile, quick set up, light, folds very small and flat. The larger table top is adequate, not awesome for the C&B. This is because it's a little on the small side. A larger surface would be nice and you can make your own, larger top and add their flange to the underside. Having said that, you can certainly manage to do a 3 cup routine on the larger top they provide.
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I make close up mats to fit InStand and Bill Abbott ( the Watson on my site) tables if anyone needs a mat to fit. I'm just sayin... Thank you. Pattrick
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An inexpensive table for the cups and balls can be put together such as this:

For standing routine or busking:

a) get a waiter's serving stand such as


b) cover it with a piece of plywood (or an inexpensive picture frame 24 x 30 from Walmart if you want a built-in lip)

c) cover it with foam rubber such as:

d) cover with a velvet or felt material.

For a sitting routine, replace a) above with

steps b, c, and d would be the same.

Similar advice is given by Gazzo on his Street Cups DVD for busking.
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I plan on getting around to this over the winter. Plans for the table I built, designed, use. It's a worker.
Foldable, fits in a Backpack.

Something a little simpler, minimal size but OK for Chop Cup, coins, or card spread. Music stand tripod attached to small narrow table.



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Contact Tim Flynn in Seattle. He makes the best table tops for close up and street Work.
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Thank you Brian Proctor for the shout out!
chucklerich is looking for a folding table... mine do not fold.
I have read all the posts in this thread and will say that depending on whether someone wants to use it indoors or outdoors might make a difference.
Velvet fabric does not hold up well when it gets wet.
I have used micro fibre suede to GREAT advantage. But recently have been building them mostly with various colors of pool table felt.
Both are very sturdy fabrics and will last a long time.
Someone mentioned a 1/4 inch lip? I recommend a 1/2 inch lip.
Depending on how much force one propels the balls with... they still sometimes go off the table.
A 1/4 inch lip is hardly enough.
Someone also mentioned a waiters tray for a stand.
The tables I build are about 10 lbs. 36 X 21 with Oak Wood Wrap.
The wait tray stand does wobble a bit.
May I recommend a decent Keyboard stand with rubber grips?
They are very sturdy, and easily adjust for your height.
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Easy to make. A picture frame made to size, a piece of plywood covered by a close up mat. Under $100, easy to assemble.
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