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This is just what I've heard:

Basically the kid was dieing from cancer, and his whole family was LIVING with MJ at the ranch.

MJ was paying for all their expenses and all of the kids medical bills...

I also heard that when they would go on trips or whatever to like las vegas, the parents would sleep in a hotel room next to MJ and THE KID... He also says he sees nothing wrong with sleeping with kids, it "its the best way to show your love"....


Also, I heard from a guy who heard from a guy who heard from a guy who knows the family that apparently micheal gave the kid sleeping pills(the kid knew this and wanted them to sleep) and while the kid was getting drowsy MJ propositioned him saying that since he was dieing anyway, why not do "this" and make everyone happy.... Not sure I believe that though, sounds too shady even for Jackson...

But come on, REGULAR CELEBRITIES don't get charged multiple times by many different people about having sex with kids, nor do normal people sleep with other people's kids and have a ranch where you can spend tons of time alone with a kid. It's not like this is all stemming from nowhere.

We all know he's guilty...
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The thing that makes me wonder is that it seems like the kid in question is the same kid appearing in one of the programs about Michel Jackson, and he believed it's thanks to Michael he got cured from cancer, and he was very positive and talked very well about Michael.

If it's that kid, to me it's an indicator that the allegations MIGHT be true, since it's such a u-turn from the kids previous claims about Michael.

I must say though, that I CAN understand the logic in paying money to have the first family drop their charges. If he was innocent, there would still be a high risk that he would be convicted.

American courts are not perfect nor are any other courts in the world. And we have all heard how pedophiles are looked upon by other prisoners. They are on the lowest step in the hierarchy, and they are the ones killed first in prison riots etc. I would not like to be in prison with this sentence, even if I was innocent.



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I think the only thing Jackson is guilty of is being different.
Perhaps Jackson told the family to get lost and that he wouldn't be footing their bills anymore. Next thing you know he's being accused of molestation. Oh well lynch the freak they say, he MUST be guilty! Guilty until proven innocent. That's my mantra. Lets step back for a moment and think about things before we send someone (possibly innocent) to jail.
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On 2003-11-22 08:57, Jason Wethington wrote:

Lets step back for a moment and think about things before we send someone (possibly innocent) to jail.
Jason


I agree. Just my reflections.



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Further thinking on this matter led me to the thought that maybe the reason that Jackson paid the millions to the parents 10 years ago, is just another example of how naive Jackson really is. Maybe Jackson thought that going to court to prove his inocents would only prolong the negative publicity but paying out the "hush money" would allow things to quiet down much sooner and he could get back to his life and work. Paying out a large sum of money is not proof of guilt, only circumstantial at best. If Michael Jackson EVER sleeps with anyone under the age of 21 again, he is truly foolish. If I was him I don't think that I would sleep with anyone under 80.
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On 2003-11-22 19:13, irossall wrote:

If Michael Jackson EVER sleeps with anyone under the age of 21 again, he is truly foolish. If I was him I don't think that I would sleep with anyone under 80.
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:rotf: Yeah, that might be a good idea maybe. Or he might want to move to Sweden. I guess you will be shocked to hear that the age of consent here is 15. Smile



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There are a LOT of states in the USA where 16 is the legal age of consent, and many more where its as low as 14 when both participants are under 21 I believe.
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As you know, Michael Jackson is back in Las Vegas. He staying at Lake Las Vegas Resort (where Celine Dion stays), which is less than 10 miles directly south of where I live. (Whopee.)

He was seen at the Fiesta Hotel/Casino playing blackjack today. He wasn't very good. He wouldn't hit on anything over 12.
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On 2003-11-22 20:53, MacGyver wrote:

...and many more where its as low as 14 when both participants are under 21 I believe.






Well, if both are around 14, I think most people think it's okay, but in Sweden the age of consent means that a 50 year old can be with a 15 year old. That feels awkward.



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"..if both are around 14, I think most people think its OK "

Really !!!

I take it you don't have kids of your own Mikael ? Otherwise I'm sure you would feel differently. If not then there is no wonder the World is in the state it is.

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On 2003-11-22 23:33, Scott Cram wrote:
He wouldn't hit on anything over 12.
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Sounds like a trend. Smile
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"..if both are around 14, I think most people think its OK "

Really !!!

I take it you don't have kids of your own Mikael ? Otherwise I'm sure you would feel differently. If not then there is no wonder the World is in the state it is.

Howard






No, I don't have kids of my own. And if I had, I would think 14 was too early, even if the other kid was 14.

What I meant was that if you compare two 14 year olds being together, with a 50 year old being together with a 14 year old, I think most people would prefer the two kids being together.

Sorry if I upset you. If anyone else still feels upset even though I have clarified what I meant, I can delete my post. No problem.



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Hi Mikael,
No I wasn't upset, more dissappointed.. cos you are right ..some people would think its OK.
I'm nott sure what to think re Mr Jackson

certainly he has problems
certainly he is naive
certainly there are a lot of people who don't care how low they stoop to make a quick buck(s.

Hasn't stopped our Tv advertising his Greatest hits CD for Christmas!!!

cheers
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Whew!! Talk about learning things about each other!!
There are some very...telling comments on this thread!

As far as multi-million dollar payouts, and that being incentive to not ever do this again..I don't think 10 million means a whole lot to MJ, whose net worth Forbes estimates at around $350 million (thats a bit like me buying someone a beer!).

As far as his guilt or innocence goes, I agree with those that say 'let the court decide' After all, that's why we have a legal system!

It may be a good idea for Michael not to let kids stay at his house anymore, but that in itself is hardly a crime.
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