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Wizard of Oz Inner circle Most people wish I didn't have 5150 Posts |
Thanks for the heads-up Stereo and Richard.
For me, good or bad, I love these insights...I just keep reminding myself to keep an objective vantage point until I hear and see the real deal.
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts |
Customers in Japan want ordinary looking items at this particular time. Tenyo is catering to their customers desires. It has nothing to do with cost, or anything else.
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts |
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts |
You can look at all the back of package on the blog. Now I understand better how lubor's routine happen.
MRI means : Miracle Reflection Image ^^ http://tenyo-magic.blogspot.fr/2013/06/tenyo-2014.html |
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts |
Funny to see the design and color of Kondo's 4D printer is close to the one of Kondo's Sandwich Platter.
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Bob_Hummer Special user 842 Posts |
The Lubor Fiedler trick looks like a use for the WOW gimmick by Masuda.
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts |
The cards don't just vanish in Lubor's effect--they are reproduced. The prop is quite versatile. Just like "Blue Crystal," people will find more things to use it for. I already have a great routine that will go in the book.
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts |
I hate to be a downer btu this years crop seems really weak to me. Only "Vision" holds any interest and the Lubor effect appears to obvious as to be comical. I understand this is based SOLEY of the description and photos on the package but come on. I hope I am proved wrong.
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3055 Posts |
Have you seen a demo teevee of the Lubor effect? They played a demo during his talk at Magic Live of the prototype and it looked pretty cool. I wouldn't dismiss it just yet.
Cheers, John |
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Richard Kaufman Inner circle 2532 Posts |
I saw all four items demonstrated using the prototypes back in July when I was at the Tenyo offices. Teevee has no idea what any of the products look like when performed, so his comments are of little practical value.
While "Magical MRI" may be the standout item for magicians outside of Japan "as is," Lubor's "Ghost Cards" will provide the most opportunity for magicians to do something really interesting with the prop. It looks quite amazing, both to magicians and laymen. For laymen, I think Komiya's version of "Flash Cash," called "Money Shock," will be the most popular seller. But that's just a guess. The reports I heard from people who were at the Tenyo Festival last Sunday and watched the customers who were seeing all the items being demonstrated for the first time were heard to exclaim loudly in surprise when the demonstrators dealt the bills to the table at the end of "Money Shock." The most practical trick for many magicians who perform in standup situations will be Kondo's "4D Printer." This has the same clever retention of vision through the window in the envelope as "Sidetrack" and "Mobile Illusion." And the trick is versatile because the cards used can be customized to special occasions. Different tricks appeal to different people for different reasons. There are no tricks in this line that are completely uninteresting like "Cloud Money" or "China Surprise," and that's a good thing! But it's clear, I think, that "Magical MRI" is something special and will be remembered as one of Tenyo's best items in the future. |
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts |
A trick designed by Hiroshi Kondo is something special too for me. The previous is from 2003 and this may be the last.
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts |
No John I hve not seen a demo... as I mentioned my remarks are based ONLY on the photos and the descriptions. With that said I still feel they are not appealing to me but I certainly hope to be proven wrong.
Richard: As far as my comments having "no practical value" the value is simply in being an opinion, nothng more or less. As I clearly stated it was only my opinion based on what I have seen. Opinions are good things and I think they shoudl be encouraged... opinions can also change and perhaps mine will once I learn more. I totally acknowledge that I currently have limited knowledge of the product but the descriptions and photos that have been released merit early thoughts and comments. If I happened to LOVE the effects based on what we now know those opinions would be no more or less valuable. I am a big Tenyo fan... these just don't excite me. One point that I have mentioned in the past that is a little out of step with many here is that as a general rule (there are exceptions) I am not a huge fan of Lubor's past work. For example I strongly dislike Blue Crystal so that personal bias of mine weighs in to some extent I am sure. |
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3055 Posts |
OK teevee now you've crossed line and must be thrown out! Kidding! Of course different opinions are fine otherwise it would be pretty boring. Was just curious if you had seen a demo, not sure if the one they showed at Magic Live is available anywhere. The effect may well suck but being a Lubor fan am hoping not.
Cheers, John |
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mirror mate Regular user 142 Posts |
I agree with teevtee I am not very impressed with lubors work either, I detest invisible zone and blue crystal aswell, and card surgery is very overated in my opinion.. MM
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3055 Posts |
Different strokes I guess... For me Lubor is a bright light in the world of magic creativity, especially given the amount of rehashed and repackaged old ideas we see in the magic marketplace today.
Cheers, John |
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ChasVH Loyal user 266 Posts |
Look... if you are a Tenyo fan and collector you are going to be buying all of these no matter what. It is hard to to knock all 4 out the park. At face value it certainly appears as if Magical MRI will be a Home run and a keeper and one of those ones that people in the future might be searching for their collections. I am sure one or two of the other three will surprise us and be way better than they look on paper and one will just be so-so. That is just the way it has been going recently. For one... I cant wait to get my hands on all of them.
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3055 Posts |
So true Charlie. Even if you look back to the "golden" years not all items in a given year were gems. We will soon know about this years items....
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stereo Inner circle France - Paris 1455 Posts |
Detest Invisible Zone ? That's funny. It's so Tenyo, so miraculous. This is proof that it takes all tastes to make a world.
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teevtee Special user 963 Posts |
I agree that I will likely purchase them all... but that doesn't mean I'll liek it! ;-)
Seriously I tend to side with Mirror Mate on the Lubor stuff. I greatly respect his creativity and contributions to magic and I 100% totally agree with John that most magic today is repetative and unoriginal and you cannot say that about Lubor's work. But still, even with that said I just do not find many of his effects to be very convincing, they often seem very proppy and toy like to me. But I guess you could say that about a lot of Tenyo stuff and in general it does nto bother me. but liek Mirror I really dislike Invisible Zone... I have never seen it fool anyone other than a child and it just does not appeal to me. To me Crystal Cleaver is probably the #1 Tenyo effect, I love Bill Escape, Prison Box and many others as well... but not Invisible Zone of Blue Crystal... they rate near my personal bottom. |
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J M Talbot Inner circle 3055 Posts |
No worries teevee we like Tenyo for different reasons. I prefer the proppy toy-like items with off the wall methods the most. When I perform it is usually non Tenyo mentalism material now... when I collect it is novel, weird, cool methods.
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