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On 2013-05-02 13:18, trueinventor wrote:

I am going to start thinking of you as: "Ustaad University". Smile


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Out of interest, if you were to use two devices at once, would the power be doubled?
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On 2013-03-13 10:43, Exitmat wrote:
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...I do not see electric as magic, I can rub my feet together and get the same effect. Smoke however, coming from no where is way more magical as a person should not just be able to produce smoke at any given notice, unless they are on fire or they have a device (couch) that is producing that smoke visibly.

JM

For me the whole key with the ET has always been in not being literal about the effect of the shock, but rather in being vague and suggestive about it. I don't say I'm going to shock them. Also, I don't just do it and let them define what it was either. I set up the moment kind of like Luke Jermay's Burst Bubble Suggestion, but using the ET to punctuate the moment before I continue to the moment I reveal the thought. Shocking them without first framing it, and then just standing there and giving them all the time they want to talk about it is not the best way to use this in my opinion. Set up what you want them to experience and then further define that experience before concluding the performance--so you're kind of bookending the whole thing. Even if they still say it felt like a shock, it's easy to bring it back by talking about how our brains are run by electricity and so thoughts really just ride on electric currents, etc.


How safe is this really? All it takes is one spectator with a pacemaker to God forbid get hurt.
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On 2013-05-02 12:32, djefvulen wrote:
Got my ET+ today. I read the instructions but haven't watched the DVD yet. The pro setup seems pretty simple on sneakers. I thought it would be harder. The written instructions doesn't mention anything about if it's ok to put the "plate" a little deeper into the shoe or if it has to be in line with the bottom. I guess it needs good grounding, but doesn't the shoes make very loud noises when walking (I'm thinking of using it at work where there are lots of clinker tiles). Maybe you should put a piece of metal on the other shoe too, to make the noise more... consistent... or something? Btw, does it even work on clinker tiles?

I tried the unit to see if it was working, what a spark! Honestly I'm feeling a little scared of trying it out... Smile


My shoe does click but nobody notices. I work in noisy bars. the metal plate has to make contact with the ground. I used contact cement and did not use the screw. It works just fine.
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Thanks,
One more question, Is this something that is of a "heavy duty" quality? Can it be used in restaurant magic work over and over?
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On 2013-05-02 13:11, Ustaad wrote:
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On 2013-05-02 12:32, djefvulen wrote:

* Got my ET+ today.

* I guess it needs good grounding, but doesn't the shoes make very loud noises when walking (I'm thinking of using it at work where there are lots of clinker tiles). Maybe you should put a piece of metal on the other shoe too, to make the noise more... consistent... or something?


LOL. There are other POSSIBLE better options than that. Smile

Though I have not given it a try but THIS seems to be one good option. You might even get rid of cutting and modifying the heel of your shoe by simply gluing the material on both the heels thus giving a much better and foolproof grounding while your heels stays level.

Just a thought as usual. Smile

Happy experimenting! Smile

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Ustaad, you're an intelligent, generous, blessing to The Café!

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On 2013-05-02 13:21, Kune wrote:

Out of interest, if you were to use two devices at once, would the power be doubled?


Good question but, why would you like to do something which might result in an unpredictable outcome?

Remember we are playing with 'Static Electricity' (that is being generated by an electronic circuit) and not with nature's 'Static Charge'. Without understanding the working (Pros & Cons) of such circuits it can/ may cause unpredictable results (like severe burns to the body skin in contact). So my humble suggestion would be to avoid such experiments.

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Ustaad, you're an intelligent, generous, blessing to The Café!


Zombie Magic, you make me blush. Smile

Anyway thank you so much for the kind words.
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On 2013-05-02 13:25, Magician Toronto wrote:

How safe is this really? All it takes is one spectator with a pacemaker to God forbid get hurt.


Hi Toronto! Sir, I was a PMEL (Precision Measurement Electronics Lab) technician in the Air Force.
We were taught that it only takes 50 milli-amps of current passing through a heart to cause fluctuation or even stop a heart.

In theory, a 9 volt battery could do that.

However, for any electric current to hurt you it has to have a complete flow path from the point of contact to a "ground" on another point of your body: the "ground" being something that would provide a path for the electric current to actually flow into the "ground" or the earth.

We, when working on electrical gear off Aircraft, always had to wear a copper bracelet around the wrist of the hand we would touch the instrument with. The copper bracelit was attached by a metallic cord to a "lightning rod" of sorts that took the current into the dirt outside the building eventually.

That way, if we touched an electrically "HOT" item by accident with our hand that had the copper bracelet, the current would flow to the copper bracelet rather than throughout the rest of our body and through our heart potentially stopping it.

It was still possible to lose a hand by electrocuting the Frito Lays out of it, but your heart was safe.

I once fell asleep with my head dropping and touching an aircraft piece of equipment that had a 10,000 volt supply turned on.

I woke up! Smile But really wasn't hurt because the current never passed through my body...it dissipated at the point of contact mostly sort of like when you rub your socks on carpet to give your brother the electric static shock.

Contact with high voltage can burn your skin or worse at the point of contact but it is only current flow through your body that can REALLY harm you badly. It sounds crazy but you can touch a 10,000 volt power supply like I did and just get a huge shock at the point of contact...no harm done, if you wear rubber soles or have been otherwise protected against current flow from one side of your body to the other.

OR you can touch a wire with 20 amps of current flow powered by a 12 volt power source (car battery) and lose your life if your shoes or feet readily transfer current to the ground or surface you are standing on.

People have been struck by lightning which has incredible voltage, with little damage, because God just watched over them at that moment and there was no immidiate flow path to "ground" through their heart or brain. One bald man began to grow hair again!

ON the other hand, I once was hanging aluminum rain gutters in a thunderstorm (I am the poster boy for stupid) and lightning struck a neighbors yard...I felt a strong charge come through the gutters because some of the electricity had traveled across the lawn and up the downspout...I got "frazzled"...that explains a lot about me now Smile

If someone with a heart pacer was wearing anything metal on the soles of his shoes, or was standing in water, or even possibly touched you "fully charged" with his right hand while wearing a metallic bracelet on his left hand it is, in theory I think, possible for current to pass through his heart.

This is what I learned but I've never heard of it happening with only small amounts of static charge. I am guessing the inventors of these neat devices have probably already had all of that looked at and feel safe in offering it to us...but don't know for sure.

Ustaad's advice should be considered carefully:

"Remember we are playing with 'Static Electricity' (that is being generated by an electronic circuit) and not with nature's 'Static Charge'. Without understanding the working (Pros & Cons) of such circuits it can/ may cause unpredictable results (like severe burns to the body skin in contact). So my humble suggestion would be to avoid such experiments."

Earlier on this thread I had stated that I hope the device proves consistent because it lends itself to so many presentations.

But after reading Ustadd's cautionary note, I have to rethink that.

If the device is rated as "safe" by UL labs or some other entity it's probably ok, but I don't know the story there.

Sorry this was so long, hope it helped.
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On 2013-05-02 13:53, trueinventor wrote:

Sorry this was so long, hope it helped.


Thank you for the educative post. Smile

. . . and while on the topic of electrocution, HERE is a little more from me! Smile Smile

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Thankyou Ustaad for that link.

Not surprisingly, you stated it so much simpler and better than me. Smile

A man who truly understands his subject can break it down to a level most anyone
can understand.

You are such a treasure for the Café.

your freind,
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USTAAD...YAY! Smile

My 100th post was to you! Somehow, that's how it should be:

I have learned SO much from you and Zombie and others and each of
you have treated me as a friend.

I am honored to be here with you at the Café. Smile

your friend,
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Hi Alex,

Congratulations on your crossing the 100 post mark. I can foresee that you will be a great asset to the Magic Café and to our community.

One never ceases to learn and we continue to learn by mutually sharing our experience and knowledge. What better place one can have than THE Café?! Smile

Thank you for the kind words.

With best regards,

Narendra

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Thank you so much Narenda. Smile
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On 2013-04-30 18:24, richi wrote:
I buy ET in the pre-order time, and I still waiting for this.
I live in Chile, so the post service is like a tourtle
Will using the Electric Touch with Sixth sense 2.5 (in my case) create a problem?
Will SS be electrocuted? The SS is rubber cover, so I think that SS is insolated, but I am not electric expert and it's a lot of money to lose.


Please can anyone answer my question? Only if anyone know the answer of course...
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Hi richi,

If all of the exposed parts of SS are rubber or plastic or wood there will be no danger of short circuiting (Burning up) any SS components.

If ANY of the exposed parts of SS are metal but are over-laying a plastic or rubber base and do not
connect in any way with any component inside "SS". then your "SS" will still be safe.

IF any metal part of any kind on the outside of "SS" extends inward into the unit then your "SS'
will probably be ruined.

If any part of "SS" would allow sweat from your hand or any type of moisture to get inside "SS" then the
moisture path could be a path into the inside of your "SS" that an electric static shock would follow and
ruin the "SS".

I don't know SS 2.5 very well, well really I don't know it at all but those rules will hold true for
just about any device.

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Ustaad & trueinventor your comments are most appreciated!
I also can point out the following:

Be careful when testing the unit for functionality!
I was acting stupid when holding the device in my left hand (without touching the metal plate!) and the L piece with a magnet in my right hand...
I don't have to explain what happened... This reminded me to the day I was bending a water stream with ET..and I touched the water.... big fault...

This also felt like a extreme shock. be careful guys.
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Thankyou ArtIn,

so sorry that happened to you but thanks for warning us.
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I just spent some time testing my Electric Touch + and I’ll share my thoughts.

To be clear, I did own the original, and I really enjoyed its use. After a few years with it, I was actually planning on replacing it because despite its good performance, it seemed to be losing power, However, I heard that the Electric Touch + was in the works, so I decided to wait for its release.

I am glad I did. Since I had the original I can compare the two pretty well. According to his website, the Electric Touch + is “completely silent.” I had heard people were having noise problems, but my original Electric Touch was also silent, so I suppose this wouldn’t technically count as an “improvement” in my case.

It is also supposed to be “more durable and longer-lasting.” This is definitely true since the housing of the magnet has anti-corrosion coating. I didn’t do anything drastic like grinding it against metal, but we have bare floors here in Taiwan and judging from the feel and how it handled rough concrete outside, it is definitely more durable.

The ad claims that it is “easier to operate” and “more reliable.” This is also correct. Before I was unable to use my Electric Touch + with sneakers very well, kind of a hit and miss, now I can utilize it with sneakers without any problems. As for reliability, opened up the ET+ to see the inside and saw that it was a LOT more insulated, so I could count on the device to deliver EVERY time.

The hook-up however, is the same. I don’t understand why people are complaining about the permanent set up. I just used an old pair of sneakers, cut the sole with a pair of tin snips and glued the plate and the sole back on. Works great, took ten minutes. Don’t get me wrong, the DVD teaches you how to do everything in the trailer, but the possibilities are really endless. Ben’s Electric Touch + guide shows how versatile the Electric Touch + is.

Overall, I’m really happy with my purchase. I spent the same amount of money that I did for the original Electric Touch and got something that is more reliable, and sure to last even longer than the old one.
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Artin, I also did the same thing. On table, brought the magnet close to the "L" and POW! Huge arc.
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Hi Xiqual,

Thankyou so much for letting us know your experiences with ET. Pretty thorough review!

If it does as well for others as it has for you it seems like a great addition to
someone's "Magic Library" in that it offers a different kind of magic than is
normally performed.

Still, have you ever had an experience that made you think it could possibly pose a
danger to someone or to yourself? Does an instructional pamphlet, or other writing coming with the
device, mention anything about ET being "Tested and Safe"?

America can sometimes be a "sue-happy" nation and it sometimes makes you afraid to
try something even if it is harmless:

"YES your honor, the man threw lightning bolts at me and my beautiful Chow Chow "Puddin" ran off screaming and barking into the night and hasn't been seen since! This dreadful man should be thrashed about the ears and forced to give me his house, which I will convert into a home for run-a-way Chow Chows." Smile

On the other had, I know if I am "over-cautious" I wouldn't
even step outside the door because something could ALWAYS go wrong that you never saw coming.

Would you feel comfortable giving ET an "Its safe to use" rating maybe on a 1-10 scale, 10 being
extremely safe?

Might be unfair to ask that of you. If I were asked that I would say: "Well, in MY hands I would
rate it an _____ but I don't know if I could rate it for you".

In any case, thanks again for a well-done! review. Smile
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Hi TI,
No, it is really not like that. My kids touch me on purpose to shock me [you get 50% of the shock when wearing the ET+] and they think it is funny. My daughter grabs the wall first so she is grounded [here in Taiwan our houses have steel rebar in the concrete walls] and it really ups the ante. I really think it is the sound that scares the most. It is no more painful than a static shock. I do the ID routine and ask them to touch my forehead. When it pops, I say "Wow, you are really focused, did you just shock me?" The look on their face is priceless. Almost like empowerment.

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On 2013-05-02 19:23, trueinventor wrote:
Hi Xiqual,

Thankyou so much for letting us know your experiences with ET. Pretty thorough review!

If it does as well for others as it has for you it seems like a great addition to
someone's "Magic Library" in that it offers a different kind of magic than is
normally performed.

Still, have you ever had an experience that made you think it could possibly pose a
danger to someone or to yourself? Does an instructional pamphlet, or other writing coming with the
device, mention anything about ET being "Tested and Safe"?

America can sometimes be a "sue-happy" nation and it sometimes makes you afraid to
try something even if it is harmless:

"YES your honor, the man threw lightning bolts at me and my beautiful Chow Chow "Puddin" ran off screaming and barking into the night and hasn't been seen since! This dreadful man should be thrashed about the ears and forced to give me his house, which I will convert into a home for run-a-way Chow Chows." Smile

On the other had, I know if I am "over-cautious" I wouldn't
even step outside the door because something could ALWAYS go wrong that you never saw coming.

Would you feel comfortable giving ET an "Its safe to use" rating maybe on a 1-10 scale, 10 being
extremely safe?

Might be unfair to ask that of you. If I were asked that I would say: "Well, in MY hands I would
rate it an _____ but I don't know if I could rate it for you".

In any case, thanks again for a well-done! review. Smile
Still with the Chinese circus Smile
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