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Strange Tasting Fish Sticks 1988 - 2013 The Big Brother is watching you 1095 Posts |
This is a two coin production using a multiple MP'd coin routine.
Here's the video, but please read the below too before you comment. If you do comment, I'd really appreciate it.I realize there's not much talking, this was just a video to see if this would look good at all. If this looks good, I'll try and incorporate it into my magic lecture at SAM in June or july. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNMu-9dOVIQ The reason the coins appear so fast is not because one coin is "dropped". I was trying to make it clear in the video the coins were not being dropped. Anyone could've dropped both coins in the hands as such. But, hopefully as you can see with the speed at which this occurred, dropping the coins would've been very hard to do. The coins were MP'd one at a time, in a controlled release. This type of muscle pass I created, I'm trying to utilize more and more in my sleights. I also do it in one of Reed McClintocks Routines from one of his lecture notes. This is my idea of using the muscle pass this way, however, I give all credit to Curtis Kam for this idea. He orginally posted it in this thread, awhile back: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......&forum=3 To paraphase him (and further give him credit for this idea, and where it came from:) Or here's a whacky idea: with two coins in MP position, your left hand lifts the lid off an Okito box on the table. They see the box is empty. As you close the lid, you MP one coin into the box and the other on top of the lid. The sound of the second coin appearing covers the secret loading of the box. (((I suppose to start, you don't need the box. You could just show your left hand empty and as you close it, one coin goes in, the other, on. ))) Thanks for putting the time into this. And for your faith in the future. (Quote by Curtis Kam) Thank you Curtis Kam. I wish I had half the creativity you did with coming up with ideas. I'm horrible at them. |
Stephon Johnson Special user Razorback Country 544 Posts |
Highly creative and different! Might be a good opening production for a Copper/Silver routine or something.
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Ado Inner circle New York City 1033 Posts |
I have no ideo how the coin stays on the hand if you MP it. I'd expect it to bounce on the back of the hand. Now, although I understand this is a rough sketch that you are developping, here's what I would like to see:
- show left hand flat, palm upwards - turn it palm down, show the coin there - relax your fingers - to prove that the coin is not stuck to the back of your hand, let it slide and fall in your right hand - at the same time, MP the last coin upwards and catch it in the left hand - turn the left hand palm up again, show the second coin. Here, I assume that the focus on the coin falling down can mask the second MP. I might be wrong, but if it does and if the moves work well together, you may have an effect that I find more deceptive. P! |
Chad Sanborn Inner circle my fingers hurt from typing, 2205 Posts |
Seems like a really difficult sleight for no real effect. It looks like you drop the coin onto your hand. I know you are doing the MP, but it looks the same as dropping it. And dropping it is a lit easier. It wasn't very magical looking to me. Your right hand obscures mist of the action. Perhaps try a different camera angle so we are looking down on your hands.
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ehands Special user Mississippi 524 Posts |
Ado's suggestions sound great to me, especially confirming that the 1st coin does not adher to the back of the hand.
I am no way as experienced as Chad, but I wonder if the productions wouldn't look more magical if, after clearly showing the left hand empty, you blocked the left fist from view with your right hand and arm. MP the coin to the back of fist. Finally, allow a few more seconds to elapse as you make a gesture with the right arm still hiding the fact that the coin is already on the back of the left fist until the instant you snap the right fingers. Maybe you intend to do something like this when you develop the routine more, but IMO this is one reason the this working clip does not capitalize on the 1st coins appearance. And of course, you just haven't bothered with the Tada moment for the 2nd production. PS: I do envy your focus.
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Strange Tasting Fish Sticks 1988 - 2013 The Big Brother is watching you 1095 Posts |
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On 2013-03-26 02:07, Ado wrote: Thank you. I apperciate it. Sounds good. Is the first not MP'd? Kind of deffeats the purpose of the Multiple one at a time MP. Hopefully I can develop a decent rountine with it. That'st he point. Regardless, it sounsd like a great idea. Thank you, I'll try it. Can you clarify it more please? What do you mind drop the coin from the back of the hand? Do you know anyway I could use this (the multiple MP one at a time) in an effect? I might just do it an okitdo box as Kam suggested, more deceptive I guess. I'll have to buy one. |
Ado Inner circle New York City 1033 Posts |
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On 2013-04-01 08:27, Strange Tasting Fish Sticks wrote: It is. You MP it to put it on top of the hand. Quote:
What do you mind drop the coin from the back of the hand? Well, if you show me a coin on the back of your hand as you turn the palm down, my first thought is "it's sticky". So, your goal as a magician is to prove me wrong. An easy way to do it is to tilt your hand forward (by breaking the wrist down) and let the coin slide over your knuckles and fall down. At which point I think that the other coin can be MP'd upwards and caught in the hand without being seen/registered. It becomes a kind of inertia pass, I guess. But not being able to do it, and can't assure you it's effective... I'd love to hear it works as hoped, though! P! |
vinsmagic Eternal Order sleeping with the fishes... 10957 Posts |
The right hand looks like it is squezzing a orange a tale tale give away from the very begining
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Strange Tasting Fish Sticks 1988 - 2013 The Big Brother is watching you 1095 Posts |
Thanks vinny, I'll hold the coins more lightly. It also makes the MP easier.
I apperciate all your guys advice. Ado, what covers having the coin fall down between the knuckles? I understand what you say more though. I'll try it out, once I completley understand. Sorry for the confusion. |
Ado Inner circle New York City 1033 Posts |
The coin falls *visibly* from the top of the left hand into the right hand. You want to show this. You want people to look at this and think "ok, the coin and the back of the hand are not sticky". What I hope, it that the fall of this coin hides the other coin going from the right hand up to the left one, at the same time.
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Strange Tasting Fish Sticks 1988 - 2013 The Big Brother is watching you 1095 Posts |
Ok, I was messing around with this. I have the coin on the left hand, I toss it to the right hand, the other coin is in CP in kaps subtley. (This works better with half dollars, my hands are small and the dollar coin flashes easier, plus it's easier to MP halves, I might switch), then I finger palm vanish it to the left hand (I retain it, go into liwag subtley), as the hand turns over the coin in CP is Muscle passed to the left hand fingertips, the other coin is retained in liwag and both hands are shown "empty". The coin can be ditched with proper audience management skills and ends clean, possibly as you hand out the chinese coin for people to look at it. I have flashy, red chinese coins I might use with a franklin half dollar (uncirculated), instead of the dollar coins due to the flashing and angle problems in kaps.
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