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chucklerich
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Ok, I am ordering a combo cups and ball set I can use to study both tricks and books that cover the classic cups and chop cups. Also I am getting a stripper deck and a book on self working card magic (to use with regular cards), as well as a book of tricks with a stripper deck.

What other classic would you suggest I study in order to be a well rounded magician(something I can do many tricks with). I was considering an okito box but I'm not sure there is a lot I can do with that.
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A thumb-tip, Gary Darwin's encyclopedia of thumb-tip magic, and a lot of chutzpah.
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Sponge Balls
Linking Rings


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Nothing yet.

See how much you can get from what you have already and then avoid the mistake we all make of getting loads of junk we'll never use because we just get excited about it.

If you like card magic, work on a couple of sets (string a few tricks together in a logical way to make a set). Perform them for friends and relatives. See what works well for you and what does not. Are you a good comedy sort or do you work better with stories? Do your audiences like the cute tricks or the mind-blowing ones?

When you have a couple of things you perform well, add something new.

There are several classic tricks out there and loads of variations on them. Cups and balls, C&R rope, linking rings, spongeballs, silk vanish, T&R paper, miser's dream, billiard balls, and a few more, depending on who is writing the list.

When you are ready to move beyond what you already have, I suggest getting Mark Wilson's Complete Course in Magic. Great value for dollar, there. By the time you have worked out a couple of new performance sets (even if your only audience is a group of friends now and then), you will know where you want to go to improve.

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Chuckles - If you are in the states get a 50 cent piece or two. You can still find them, may have to pick em up at the bank. Grab Bobo's book. Learn the classic palm then learn to roll the coin across your knuckles. That will keep your hand busy all the time! Though as Mr. Woolery suggests taking time to practice a few things at a time will certainly be a better route to go.

~Rogue
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Billiard balls, coins across with a shell, rope routine like prof nightmare

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The original basic OKITO BOX is very versatile prop. I personally, don't care for the 'modified' 'improved' boxes--although some performers love them. it's a case of personal taste--and concerning tastes, we cannot argue!

Most magicians that I've seen do it, don't know the'real work'. Dennis Loomis had a "twist" on the Okito box in a TOPS annnual back in the '60s. It was DYNAMITE, then--and would be today.

Mr.Woolery and Rogue Txn have passed along some very worthwhile thoughts.

I would add one more recommendation::: READ READ READ. BOBO, MARK WILSON'S ENCYCLOPEDIA, ROYAL ROAD TO CARD MAGIC.
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The Classics, to me.
Cups & balls
Linking rings
Egg bag
Cut & restored rope (Professor's Nightmare)
Chinese Sticks
Cards across
Coins through the table
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On 2013-03-16 22:08, Pete Biro wrote:
The Classics, to me.
Cups & balls
Linking rings
Egg bag
Cut & restored rope (Professor's Nightmare)
Chinese Sticks
Cards across
Coins through the table


What an *excellent* list! I don't suppose these effects can be found in Tarbell? Smile
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All of those can be found in Tarbell.
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Dye Tube and silks
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If youre into cards The Royal Road To Card magic is a must have.
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For coin magic, Bobo's Coin Magic book is the place to begin.
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On 2013-03-16 22:08, Pete Biro wrote:
The Classics, to me.
Cups & balls
Linking rings
Egg bag
Cut & restored rope (Professor's Nightmare)
Chinese Sticks
Cards across
Coins through the table


Sheeesh, Pete! That's basically, my act!
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On 2013-03-16 22:08, Pete Biro wrote:
The Classics, to me.
Cups & balls
Linking rings
Egg bag
Cut & restored rope (Professor's Nightmare)
Chinese Sticks
Cards across
Coins through the table


Great list Pete! I'd like to add the ball and cone. Not because of the effect but because of what the effect will teach you about magic and performance.

I also wonder if the Bensson Bowl and Chop Cup have been around long enough to be considered classics too Smile
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Pete Biro
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Benson Bowl? Origins in China 2,000 years ago.... certainly a classic.
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Pete Biro
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Oslund.... your handling of the dopey balloon pump is one of the greatest lessons in magic Smile
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For those of you that don't know OSLUND was the master of re-setting stuff on the fly in his act. He would finish a show, go to the next and was already re-set.
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Tricks aren't enough. We have to study presentation, theory, stagecraft, misdirection, etc. Study books that get you thinking.

Here's a few books to study:

Magic And Showmanship
Strong Magic
The Fitzkee Trilogy
Just about anything by Eugene Burger
The Tarbell Course

Unless you have a major physical handicap, don't shy away from sleight of hand. It will give you more flexibility than you would have with just gaffs.
chucklerich
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Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful suggestions thus far. Perhaps a bit more information about my hands will be helpful. I've heard the type of hands a person has have a lot to do with what kind of sleights he can perform.

Whereas most magicians I have seen and met have "piano hands" mine look like a combination of sausage patties and tapered breakfast links. No matter how many hours I have practiced coin rolls or billiard ball production the props always end up rolling or flipping off my fingertips.

Half dollar size coins palm and finger cradle well in my hands but more than 3 coins and no matter how I try to make my hands look natural/empty they end up looking awkward/full. If I try using anything smaller than a quarter I find I have zero control of their (coins) movement.

If you want I'll try to get a couple good pics of my hands on here next to or with a half dollar. Let me know what "poses" of my hands you would find most helpful in giving advice.
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