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KyleMarlett Special user 590 Posts |
Hey Guys,
It really frustrates me to see a FaceBook page which is sharing links to exposing magic, including to my effects by, Justin Miller, Loki,Rick Lax and more. Ive informed most of the magicians on the page about the page, but if you wanted to help by reporting the page to FaceBook or commenting on the page saying that they should take this down ect, that would be awesome. I don't really want to post the link publicly but if you would like help PM me, or Loki, for details on how to report it. Thank you guys for all the help and support. |
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts |
As with current threads about this kind of behavior, we do NOT want to promote it by publicly posting here.
I am very familiar with who is really "who" around here, and if you send me a PM, I will send you the link to report it. But I will be watching it. For "likes", clicks, et cetera. I want to see the page reported, not popularized. (If I do not respond with a link. Do NOT take that to mean I do not trust you. I just most likely do not KNOW you. I am sure between all of us, a nice network of concerned individuals will be able to take action.) I would also like to formerly ask Steve Brooks and the Café, to pull this thread in 36 hours. It should only take that long. Thank you for making this known Kyle, and I look forward to working with all of you to take action on this information, the RIGHT way. Thank you all for your concern, LokI |
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts |
*Formally. (Lol. rare )
Also I am bumping this. (I apologize. It is for just one day.) I would also ask those that are a part of my personal cabal; to contact me through the normal means. (Not the blue pigeon ). This will be easily sorted. LokI |
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
Interesting.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
I won't forget you Robert. |
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Don Dasher Special user 535 Posts |
But this has been going on forever, all over the net.
Why the sudden concern for your peers Kyle? DD |
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
I don't think Facebook would allow this? It should be easy enough to report it and have it removed.
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts |
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On 2013-03-21 15:11, gdw wrote: This is not the normal "bootlegging". They have essentially created a site where all the new releases are, and you do not have to torrent them. They are direct links to downloadable copies. It is a bit much. (As I have dealt with plenty of boot-legging, and live with it; this is essentially a "store", with everything new. There are no means to which you have to do anything that would expose your using it. Such as torrents do, or knock-off sites.) Plus, being that it is a facebook page. It is far more public. (And before any useless arguments about IP arise, I will say that they are NOT trying to broaden magic; they are happily and merrily giving it away. Full form. No form of Artistic intent.) So that argument will not happen here. That is pointless. It has been brought to my attention that the holders of the rights to these creations should file a Copyright Claim with FB. (If you released anything in the last year, you are on there.) So that is the course we are taking at the moment. Anything else, is just more exposure. To me this is not about money, as I know this game. It is the blatant and egregious way in which they are doing it. (And attacking bad taste is always a supportable cause). LokI Was Here |
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Don Dasher Special user 535 Posts |
Yes, it would be extraordinarily easy to remove copyrighted material from facebook.
But why stop with facebook? That seems to be a drop in the bucket. DD |
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Don Dasher Special user 535 Posts |
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On 2013-03-21 15:37, lokikross wrote: Not true. You are on there if you released something through a certain dealer that is a target for knock-offs. Only certain people are on there. Study the list. If you want to avoid being knocked off, don't throw your products into the crosshairs. DD |
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts |
It all depends on the country it originates from.
Facebook falls under copyright law. Many countries do not support it. (Which I am sure you are aware of DD) So going after them is pointless, and usually not worth it. As they are not selling to the majority of those who would want these products, and use them. This is far more accessible, viral, and we actually have some power in this battle. Or as they say, "Choose your battles wisely". Though I do prefer "The Discourses on the First Decade of Titus Livy", over "The Prince". If you know what you are doing with that knowledge LokI waxes Machiavellian |
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Don Dasher Special user 535 Posts |
Facebook is a US company. You file a DMCA takedown notice.
It's simple. Really, it is. DD |
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Martin.Lester Inner circle 1014 Posts |
Just sent you a PM
The more people support this the better |
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tomsk192 Inner circle 3894 Posts |
"Set a thief to catch a thief."
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts |
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On 2013-03-21 15:37, lokikross wrote: Don... You read the line below, but not above? Quote:
On 2013-03-21 15:42, Don Dasher wrote: Very true, but then again; this constitutes a lot of creators. Should we not put magic out? I'm confused to what your actual point is Don. As I have already said to make the claim. As for who and what companies make up the list, that is of little importance to the issue. I am sure there is something, or someone on that list that you respect. And that you would not want to see the work given away. But I digress. |
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lokikross Special user An Undying Heart of Chaos; Stabbed with 719 Posts |
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On 2013-03-21 15:53, tomsk192 wrote: ;) Chapter 13, Sun Tzu "The Art of War". |
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2199 Posts |
For my music releases I use a company called toppletrack who remove the majority of illegal links when they are posted .
There must be a similar service on the magic world? |
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Don Dasher Special user 535 Posts |
If I get 1000 likes by Midnight I'll take it down.
DD PS. Just kidding. I will NEVER take it down Buuuaaahaahahahaha! |
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Don Dasher Special user 535 Posts |
I just felt a rush of power like the killer in the SAW movie must feel.
If that were my page I'd reveal the password one letter at time on this forum, with my demands growing more shocking each time. First... Kyle must eat Loki's foot. DD |
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KyleMarlett Special user 590 Posts |
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On 2013-03-21 16:43, Don Dasher wrote: I'm a vegetarian |
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Phatmeat Special user Silver Spring, Maryland 739 Posts |
That's frustrating. If you guys want to PM me the link and I will be more than happy to report it. Hopefully they'll take it down sooner rather than later.
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