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Hey guys, so as I'm sure some of you know, there are quite a number of people that, when eating dinner at their favourite restaurant, can't be bothered to focus all of their attention towards the long and dreadful plots for card tricks that we all come up with.

So, I think this post should be for people to share ideas for tricks that are ideal for strolling that do not use cards.

A few of my favourites are:
Coins through table
Colour-changing knives
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What are some of your favourite effects for table-hopping that do not use cards?
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Obligatory on topic answer:

Finger Ring and String
Sponge Balls

My heartfelt answer:
Ambitious Card
Dr Daley's Last Trick
Invisible Deck

Any routine can be long and boring. Don't exclude card tricks from your set just choose the right ones.
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I love card tricks just as long as you don't do too many. I was asked to do 2 tricks just a little while ago. Sponge balls and a card trick..a force and a double lift. That was enough and the reaction was awesome. You also can't beat multiplying rabbits. Check out Bob Sheets Does Hospitality..Volume 1.
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You need to choose your card tricks wisely and give them an interesting presentation.
The I Hate David Copperfield Trick is a good one for instance.

Non-Card stuff:

Gypsy Thread
A Bill Change or Penetration
Tale of the Treasury Worm
Ring & Ribbon/String
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Sponge Balls are definitely a good one! I find trouble introducing them, though. "Oh hey guys, I've got these two spongeballs that I like to carry around in my pocket..." Also, they squish sometimes, which makes them look quite odd.

Also, I suppose you're right. I do sometimes perform two card monte, and I often use the ID to close, but I still generally prefer to stay away from card tricks when I'm table hopping, because there will be people who, when they see a deck of cards, go 'oh no, not this again' (probably from seeing failed card tricks in the past), and they aren't as engaged in the card tricks as you'd like them to be.

Charlie, I'm not unfamiliar with card tricks. I've used them before. But I find that card tricks, with regards to the audience's perception of a trick, generally have the highest rate of failure. For example, they'll credit effects to the magician's handling of the cards, not to MAGIC. Or maybe they aren't willing to offer the attention needed, even for a simple transposition of two cards using a duplicate card and a DL. Of course some people receive card tricks VERY well, but many people do not, which was the purpose of this topic; to let people know about tricks and routines that do not require a deck of cards.
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You need to make tricks easy to follow. Its good to stay away from the and here is your card, Now it gone oh its under the glass, its in my pocket, now it on the celling, oh look its fold up in not one not two but 3 envlopes. Its good to keep at shuffle your card there it is. Also be able stop and draw Focus helps. Example I do card thru silk. They chose a card the deck is shuffled and wrapped up in a hanky. I hold the hanky up near my face. This give time for every one focus recount what's happened so far. Also I do try not to perform while people are actually eating.

As for sponge balls. I use a purse frame which I explain as a purse made out of a black hole. Also sponge bunnies, the way I introduce these are I don't have a rabbit in the hat but I do have a hare in the nose.

Hope this add to the great advice already given good luck.
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What is a purse frame?
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Sponge Balls are definitely a good one! I find trouble introducing them, though. "Oh hey guys, I've got these two spongeballs that I like to carry around in my pocket..." Also, they squish sometimes, which makes them look quite odd.


You can talk about how you once got in to a fight with a clown and stole his nose. Then explain to them the really interesting thing about clown noses, which of course we all know to be that when you squeeze them and put your finger down the center, they split in to two clown noses. Tricky clowns...
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Consider two copper/one silver coin transposition. Very visual, doesn't require onlookers to touch anything, looks like great manipulation, instant reset and can easily be routined to lead into another effect.

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Introducing Sponge Balls? First never call them sponge balls, they are balls or clown noses. I think people love card tricks or Jon Armstrong wouldn't have a career. I think, we as magicians, do too many at one time. But for the purpose of this thread, anything that takes place in the spectator's hands is a winner.
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Don’t call them sponge balls. In fact don’t call them balls or anything for that matter. People can see they are balls, don’t point out the obvious. It’s like saying "I have a stack of 52 individual pieces of cardboard here,"

Check out David Stones Sponge ball Routine. It’s very cool, very simple and only uses two balls.

Also I am a fan of Troy Hooser’s Coin work. I use a few routines of his from his book, As well as a variation of his bottle production, also in his book.
Other things I have or have had done that do not involve cards
Mini Chop cup
Floating Ring
Bill switch or Bill to impossible location (card box)
Anything with a thumb tip
A quick and short rope routine
Pressure (phone in balloon)
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Coins - I have about 5 or 6 routines I alternate.
Ring and string
Flash bill to wallet
and many more.....

You don't need cards. But they are handy to have !
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I like the idea of the purse frame, thanks! Also the 'I got into a fight with a clown and stole his nose', that's quite humorous, thanks! Smile

Ah, that's a good one, Julie! Are you referring specifically to the one that Greg Wilson teaches on 'On the Spot'?

A purse frame, like the one that comes in Steve Dacri's sponge ball kit, is like a coin purse, but without the actual purse, just the part that opens up, by itself. You can open it up and pull out anything you have palmed, ie sponge balls.

Again, charlie, I am not saying that people don't like card tricks. I'm saying that ordinary people who had no intention of watching magic, and are just out to eat dinner, may not necessarily enjoy card magic as much as they would other things, such as sponge balls, or coins. By no means am I saying that card magic isn't loved by many. People who go out with the intention of seeing magic would likely love to see a fair share of card tricks.

Thanks Andy!

I love David Stone! His sponge ball routine is great!
I've never seen Troy Hooser, or his coin work; I'll have to look that up.
Do you have anything I could refer to for floating ring?
Also, while I LOVE the effect of pressure, I really don't like how we can't hand it out afterwards. Well, as far as I know, the balloon wraps around the phone - Then what do you do with it from there?
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...Ah, that's a good one, Julie! Are you referring specifically to the one that Greg Wilson teaches on 'On the Spot'?...

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The routine I'm referencing is by J.C. Wagner and Bob Sheets as supplied with Johnson's Silver/Copper/Brass Transposition.
That's the one with a genuine faux Chinese coin Smile.

This is especially good for your situation because it all happens in your hands.

Julie
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You can talk about how you once got in to a fight with a clown and stole his nose. Then explain to them the really interesting thing about clown noses, which of course we all know to be that when you squeeze them and put your finger down the center, they split in to two clown noses. Tricky clowns...



I find clowns too creepy.
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Both of these are versions of the color changing knives
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Ball sleights with two balls and a Hank
Giant paddle
Coin thru coin
Card to wallet (even though it's a card trick it has legs)
3inch coin manip
2copper 1silver
Ultimate ring and string
Jumbo ring off silk to jumbo watch
Weismans color cube
Quarter through pen
Ellis ring with the ring on/off/on thumb
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Sponge balls or bunny
Coins thru table or to glass
Ring string, ring to key chain, etc
Bill change or similar
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I do card magic as well as other kinds of magic but really what you do all comes down to how much room you have available on the table.
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You can talk about how you once got in to a fight with a clown and stole his nose. Then explain to them the really interesting thing about clown noses, which of course we all know to be that when you squeeze them and put your finger down the center, they split in to two clown noses. Tricky clowns...



I find clowns too creepy.


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