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Dannydoyle
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Seriously? Still it is the cards fault?
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Not sure who that is addressed to Danny, but if it was to my comment, I am not blaming the cards. I just personally don't enjoy practising card magic as much as other areas, and thus my other effects are better rehearsed and I devote more time to routining them - much like a lot of card guys' opinions on coin magic. Lots of people recommend the 3 routine set with a coin, card and close-up effect; I just thought I would see professionals' opinions on replacing the card routine with something else in various settings.
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Having Harlan's Vortex or Portabl Ink ready to add to the bottom of the deck allows you to perform card tricks that are quick, visual blasts, kids love them, parents are baffled and you have a deck that's easily cleaned up if you get the card trick vibe. Also would like to throw in that I've been using Geoff Williams sponge ball routine a lot lately. Well structured and can be stopped at several points if the food should come. That's handy!
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Cards are not responsible for anything.
Now with a poker boom they fascinate people!
Its your job as a magician to decide what card tricks are good and appropiate
Right to the point for your audiences and which ones are good for you and the man in
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Lot of card tricks will only live on the pages of a Book !
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I am not a big fan of card magic. I like to perform using different Props. However, there are excellent Card Magic routines. The advantage is you can do a lot of Magic with cards, they are cheap and easy to carry. However, I think it is good for yourself and the audience if you mix it up with other forms of Magic. Cheers!
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Were those an example of effects less boring than card tricks?

I have never understood why magicians use the name of the effect in the presentation of the effect.
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I once worked a ballroom with a Super Sharpie and a Post-It pad

That’s where I stumbled across one of the strongest effects for young children.

I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, but just have the child throw up fingers and SG them.

I present it as the child correctly guessing MY number. Curtis Kam figures it’s because children just accept that adults have certain abilities, so you must present it as a demonstration of the child’s ability instead. Plays great with the kids and their parents.

For adults, I did a two-digit number and delivered a quick numerological reading leading up to the big reveal.

Sometimes, it can be beneficial to purposely hamstring yourself
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On Apr 17, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
Were those an example of effects less boring than card tricks?

I have never understood why magicians use the name of the effect in the presentation of the effect.


Hi Danny - I assume you're referring to my post? Didn't mention boring card effects? Just thought I'd post some non card effects that I use myself. I guess you're inferring that these are boring? Hey ho... Can't win them all!
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I inferred nothing. I implied nothing, you would have to infer it.

I'm more curious as to why you would use the commercial name of the effect in the presentation?
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Another non card performance. CelebriDate performed at my lecture at the Magic Circle 2016 when I had hair!

https://youtu.be/WOOaVNaO0gs
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[quote]On Apr 17, 2021, Avocat wrote:
I once worked a ballroom with a Super Sharpie and a Post-It pad

That’s where I stumbled across one of the strongest effects for young children.

I’ve mentioned it elsewhere, but just have the child throw up fingers and SG them.


Super glueing the child's fingers is an excellent way to keep him distracted.
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Carrying a Force Sight Svengali pad by Colin Cloud is really great to have.
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What bad jokes about a clown's nose are you referring to?

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Really? Card tricks are bad but a 100 year old joke that every magician uses about a clown nose will fly? Seriously?
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Sponge Balls are definitely a good one! I find trouble introducing them, though. "Oh hey guys, I've got these two spongeballs that I like to carry around in my pocket..." Also, they squish sometimes, which makes them look quite odd.


You can talk about how you once got in to a fight with a clown and stole his nose. Then explain to them the really interesting thing about clown noses, which of course we all know to be that when you squeeze them and put your finger down the center, they split in to two clown noses. Tricky clowns...


THIS is a 100 year old clown joke. I have no language in a card trick this ridiculous.
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Hmmm... I usually pull out a sponge ball and ask anyone if they know what it is. I'll tell them it's not a clown's nose, cause it would have a slit down the middle so it would fit over my nose (usually put it on nose briefly) but I'm a magician, not a clown. Sponge balls have unique properties to them...blah, blah, blah.

I take advantage of the clown line to point with my index finger so that focus is on the pointing (to where the slit would be), not on the ball that hand is holding out. I also take advantage of the empty palm position (and the apparently empty hand that it suggests, even though a ball is being held out) that is displayed when I briefly pinch the ball and hold it on my nose.

Interesting thoughts on the clown nose line...

Card equivalent - Want to change your mind, no, happy with the mind you have. Or, I'll take the pen back, that's how I got it... Pick a card, any card...


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On 2013-03-22 15:10, TranMagic wrote:
Sponge Balls are definitely a good one! I find trouble introducing them, though. "Oh hey guys, I've got these two spongeballs that I like to carry around in my pocket..." Also, they squish sometimes, which makes them look quite odd.


You can talk about how you once got in to a fight with a clown and stole his nose. Then explain to them the really interesting thing about clown noses, which of course we all know to be that when you squeeze them and put your finger down the center, they split in to two clown noses. Tricky clowns...


THIS is a 100 year old clown joke. I have no language in a card trick this ridiculous.
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Nowhere near as bad as the clown nose nonsense, but then again I only work for adults.

By the way those are two great examples of lines I don't use.

There is HUGE difference in lines magicians all use, like the change your mind thing, and things like the clown nose nonsense.

If they work cool do them. If the change your mind line works do it. I was just pointing out the irony of folks using lines like the clown nose and sitting in judgements of card tricks.

Best to just do what is best for you and don't judge others.
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Fair points all.

I agree with you about stock lines. I guess that along with the natural misdirection, I always make sure to say it almost haughtily, like "I'm a Magician!" Then dismissively, "not a clown..." It makes me laugh a little inside to diss clowns every time I do sponge balls.

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On May 17, 2021, Dannydoyle wrote:
Nowhere near as bad as the clown nose nonsense, but then again I only work for adults.

By the way those are two great examples of lines I don't use.

There is HUGE difference in lines magicians all use, like the change your mind thing, and things like the clown nose nonsense.

If they work cool do them. If the change your mind line works do it. I was just pointing out the irony of folks using lines like the clown nose and sitting in judgements of card tricks.

Best to just do what is best for you and don't judge others.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance; it is the illusion of knowledge.
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I would never do a gig without cards because in my work I find certain things are more suited for certain effects. To elaborate, I use coins for production, vanishes and transportation. I use rubber bands for penetration effects and rope for restoration. I generally use cards for prediction, transposition and psychokinesis effects among others.
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