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snape Regular user 158 Posts |
Al,
Where are your new books going to be published? Is it possible to purchase signed copies directly from you? I will send you a personal message but figured this might be of general interest. Thanks. |
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Al Schneider V.I.P. A corn field in WI surrounded by 1080 Posts |
Snape
I am presently only publishing books on amazon dot com. I now have 17 there. Search amazon on books Al Schneider Magic and you will see them all. I have no way of signing copies of the books as amazon prints them and sends them directly to the person that made the purchase. You may be curious about the NY Street Cups. As we are talking about cups here. I have been thinking about it for several years. Most of my routines are with smaller balls. The concept here is to do a routine with larger balls with less sophisticated moves. Also, I see a weakness in many routines that are Vernon/Mallini type routines. The weakness is in the first three vanishes. If the regular routines are performed for polite audiences, everything goes OK. In a street setting things are a bit more difficult. As the vanishes are simple hold back vanishes, the door is opened for the audience to challenge the move. Vernon handled this by using the wand spin vanish for the last ball. The issue is that the first ball vanish goes OK. Now, however, the audience knows what is to happen. The same vanish cannot be repeated. Vernon threw in the wand spin to deal with this. Gazzo style solves the problem by using gags instead of actually vanishing the balls. The routine I am planning starts off with complete vanishes. This is to eliminate challenges from the audience. The next feature of the routine is to use only hold back vanishes in the enrire routine. The goal is to use robust moves that can be done under great pressure. Although they are hold back vanishses, they are structured so they do not appear that way. That is, each move is accomplished by chaining assumptions to hide the first assumption of the toss. The next feature is the three balls will be of different color. Finally, the routine uses the infinite production of balls from under the cups. This is the sequence in which the balls are removed from the table and put into the pockets that can go on forever. It moves fast and I think it is an entertainimg bit. My ultimate goal is to produce a routne that is very suitable to perform in a stage oriented setting. Hence the larger balls such as an inch in diameter. Al Schneider
Magic Al. Say it fast and it is magical.
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snape Regular user 158 Posts |
I just had a look around.
Some of the books are actually also available on amazon.co.uk, which is good news for people living in the UK as far as postage is concerned, but others are not. For example, "The Theory and Practice of Magic Deception" can only be ordered from the US site amazon.com. Is there a reason for that? Could you possibly make it available on amazon.co.uk as well? Thanks. |
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Al Schneider V.I.P. A corn field in WI surrounded by 1080 Posts |
Thanks for pointing that out.
Its an option to select. That option was not available when the book was published. Al Schneider
Magic Al. Say it fast and it is magical.
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Magician Shaun Special user Huntington BCH, CA 924 Posts |
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On 2013-04-19 15:40, spartacus wrote: By your flawed logic I could take Pink Floyd's song Wish you were here, change the name to Wish she was here, and the chorus line to the same and maybe change the key the song is played in otherwise leaving it exactly the same and call it mine and sell it? In your mind that is OK? Because you sure seem to be saying that by your Gazzo/Vernon comments. |
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dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts |
I was listening to the radio a while ago and they had a band on (I can't remember which), another band had just done a cover of one of their songs. The radio show host asked how that worked ..... Did they pay you, did they ask first? The reply was along the lines of no you just do it and they can't do anything about it. They did say they liked the other bands version, so maybe they didn't mind. It may have been different if they had not liked it?
Not saying its ok to pass something off as your own. But you do hear a lot of cover versions. I guess that the general public will know that they are cover versions and bands tend to say "this is our cover of xyz". But as already has been said one wouLd. Ot want to say this is my version of x's trick. Great discussion though! Kudos to the OP. |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
My cup and ball routine is part Jim Ryan and Dai Vernon. I have heard story that Malini's son said to a magician friend of mine that the Vernon cups and balls routine that was published in the Stars of magic was Malini's.
It is also an interesting thing that the Vernon on Malini book did not have the Malini cups and balls routine in the book. It explained his stage act, and some close up gems and the spinning coin and brick but it did not explain the cups and balls routine. One of Malini's trademark tricks. I find that interesting. In my opinion when presenting a show the goal is to entertain the audience. Not give them a history lesson about who invented what. I hope this helps.
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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RiffRaff Special user 671 Posts |
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On 2013-05-13 08:17, bishthemagish wrote: Now why didn't I mention that?! |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
You did and I did in threads years ago.
Cheers!
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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landmark Inner circle within a triangle 5194 Posts |
I like Kent's Cups and Balls very much as well as David Regal's Cups and Balls and Cups and Balls which have similar themes.
Here's the Regal routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbnwgwnLe38
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malaki Elite user 490 Posts |
By your flawed logic I could take Pink Floyd's song Wish you were here, change the name to Wish she was here, and the chorus line to the same and maybe change the key the song is played in otherwise leaving it exactly the same and call it mine and sell it? In your mind that is OK? Because you sure seem to be saying that by your Gazzo/Vernon comments. [/quote]
I think that Pink Floyd would have an issue with that, and I would not blame them at all... For years, I did a basic routine, based on the ones included with the cups, I just added some personal comments and a couple of final loads. This lasted me for more than 30 years. Then I decided to create a routine of my own, using what I had learned over the last 40 years. I watched many routines on the internet, seeing many of the same routines performed by different people, with a few original items added in. I think that most magi should create their own routine. We all know the moves, as well as the moves used for many other effects. The Café also has a wealth of moves and items to produce from the cups. Build your own! Yes, to a certain degree, it is reinventing the wheel, but that is the price you pay to create a NEW routine. As someone on the Café will point out, there is nothing new under the sun - but there are always new approaches to take - you know, the roads less traveled! When I started to create my new C&B routine, my goals were: A period routine (13th century). A routine for a wizard to perform (as opposed to jongoleer, busker, jester, fool, thief, etc.). A series of moves that show the routine seem as fair as possible to the layman. A surprising ending that is unlike any that I have seen. I started writing my routine as an explanation of magic's history, ultimately explaining it as an alchemical experiment. I introduced myself and the cups, giving the audience an idea of how many years these types of props have really been used (Stone Age - archaeologists say that man started performing magic about the same time that they started using tools). By the end, I invoke the name of Roger Bacon as the alchemist/maker of my cups, and go into some simple explanations of how they work under that context, using the theory behind real magic as my foundation. I planned what I wanted to see happen, then figured out what moves would be required to make that happen. Using my clothing and mannerisms, I had more than enough capability for misdirection to steal the loads I needed to produce. Basically write a story and illustrate it with magic! You have the full range of possibilities to tell the story, show it happen and have some really nifty stuff happen in the process! Use the tools available to you and create something you can call your own! As I read the posts on the Café, I can see that someone has produced loose gemstones as a final load, as well as myriad other objects. The trick to it is creating a story that sets you apart from those who have created something before! Can anyone do this? No. I have had enough fun, with my own routining, creating this. Is it a successful routine? My early views of it on video look promising, but show plenty of room for improvement. Some of the misdirection that I thought would be problematic, looked great on video. Other stuff, not so much. With a few more tweaks, I think that I may have a routine that I may perform for the rest of my life. Saying this, I know from experience that it will develop, and be refined as I start performing it in front of an audience. Magic is a dynamic art-form. If you pay attention, the audience will tell you what will work and what will not. Standing in front of an audience dressed as I do, I am expected to perform something different from other magicians. I want to make the experience not only fun, but educational as well! |
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John Oaks New user 64 Posts |
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On Apr 9, 2018, malaki wrote: Bingo!
Have a Magical Day!
------ I really didn't know how to explain it. So I told them the truth, and they fell for it! |
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hypnoman1 New user 76 Posts |
I like Kent's Cups and Balls very much as well as David Regal's Cups and Balls and Cups and Balls which have similar themes.
Here's the Regal routine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbnwgwnLe38 I like your thinking on this an I was also inspired by Regals originally then found Kent's to be similar. I use the version in the video
For those who believe, no explanation is necessary; for those who do not believe, no explanation will suffice.
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