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On Jun 20, 2024, Leo H wrote:
Houdini was emotionally caught up in the moment after the automatic writing seance with Doyle's wife. Over time, when he began to think about what happened, he realized the language discrepancy. In any case, automatic writing is nonsense, Lady Doyle did not reveal any private information Houdini only shared with his mother. Just hokum like: "How I miss you my darling son." That tells us nothing.

As for Margery, when she levitated the table during her seance, Houdini let go of the hand on his left side and groped under the table. He felt Margery's head lifting it up. The ectoplasm that oozed out of her body was lab tested and found to be animal tissue.

Houdini only thought that she was using her head. He never caught her doing ANYTHING..... Do you have a link to the medical doctors or scientists that proved Ectoplasm was animal tissue???? I'd love to see that one. Smile Smile Smile
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Go to page 378 of the Silverman biography of Houdini:

"...Harvard physiologists, and zoologists had studied samples of Margery's ectoplasmic tentacle-hand. They found marks of trachea, proving that it had been fabricated out of some animal's lung tissue."

When the card table levitated, Houdini felt her head underneath. That's pretty much cut and dried.
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They studied PICTURES ..... If Houdini felt her head under the table why didn't;t he expose her right then like he did every other medium he watched?????
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After the Margery seance, Houdini discussed what happened in a car parked outside with two other Scientific American committee members. But he had to remain silent until the committee's final report.
Then he published his pamphlet exposing her methods.

I think the Harvard scientists studied actual samples in a lab--not a photograph of the ectoplasm.
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This is all old news.

1) Several different people caught Crandon cheating.
2) It has been established in the medical literature that a punch cannot rupture an appendix, even if the latter is infected.
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This is all old news.

1) Several different people caught Crandon cheating.
2) It has been established in the medical literature that a punch cannot rupture an appendix, even if the latter is infected.

Name those who caught Crandon cheating... I'll wait!!!!!! When where and how will do....
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Name those who caught Crandon cheating... I'll wait!!!!!! When where and how will do....


For starters Houdini caught her cheating in the first and second seance he attended. He had tied a bandage under his right knee to make his lower leg tender and sensitive. This allowed him to feel her left leg reach for the bell box that was on the floor between his feet and ring it with her left foot.
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He never exposed her. He just said how he Thought she was doing it so he could sell a book. Smile
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The Scientific American committee refused to award her their $5,000 prize because she was not able to produce any phenomena that could not be duplicated by normal means. She failed where the rubber meets the road.
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Their prize was only $2500 and Houdini was on the board. Her spirit guide put a curse on Houdini that culminated in his death. How do you do that by natural means????? Smile
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Two prizes of $2,500 were offered to the first psychic that could produce the goods under test conditions. A total of $5,000.

Houdini's death didn't win Margery the grand prize. The curse was a bit off. It foretold that Houdini would be dead by the end of 1925. He passed that deadline. Pardon the pun.
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Arthur Ford won the contest however he never asked for the money. He was famous enough by then to tour the world as the man who cracked the Houdini Mystery Word and code it was hidden within. Smile Smile Smile Smile
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You probably know the story of Arthur Ford and Bess hanging out together. Ford pitched the idea to Bess that he would crack the code and both would cash in on it.
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What is your source?
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Sources:

Houdini: The Untold Story by Milbourne Christopher, page 257. Ford apparently had known Bess long before the Payson Avenue seances.

Houdini: His Legend and His Magic by Doug Henning and Charles Reynolds, page 186. A fellow named Jay Abbott contacted William Rauscher after he published his book on Arthur Ford. Abbott told him he had known Bess & Ford and confirmed that they were friends and going out together before the Payson Avenue seances.

The most likely scenario is that Ford duped her and managed to get the crucial information he needed.
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Please tell me about the REAL Jay Abbott... LOL. Ford was Gay, not that there is anything most people would find wrong about that, so him hooking up with Bess is unlikely. How would the number one Spiritualist in New York dupe Mrs. Houdini?
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How would the number one Spiritualist in New York dupe Mrs. Houdini?


Pretending to be straight so that he could worm the information out of her?
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I find that people in the entertainment industry have pretty good Gaydar... I doubt she was fooled. Smile Smile Smile Smile
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I find that people in the entertainment industry have pretty good Gaydar... I doubt she was fooled. Smile Smile Smile Smile


That's even better. It was just a platonic friendship then. Since he was funny, Bess knew he would not put the moves on her. Thus she was free to be chatty friends with him--and reveal maybe too much information?
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She was committed to give $10,000.00 to anyone who knew the secret word and the secret code. She wasn't stupid. Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile Smile
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