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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts 
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On 2013-05-27 08:51, TomBoleware wrote: I applaud you dear sir... 
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts
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On 2013-05-27 08:51, TomBoleware wrote: Brovo - I agree. Some projects, ideas and things needed to be done often need to be set aside for a while. Take time to re-do or re-invent, make plans and slowly onward toward a goal or a revised goal. Sometimes it is two steps forward one step back - Onward. Cheers!
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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On 2013-05-27 12:42, bishthemagish wrote: Agreed. 
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Jonathan Townsend Eternal Order Ossining, NY 27300 Posts
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On 2013-05-27 11:15, tommy wrote: Also presumes that someone (else?) would know (better?), be able to tell you and choose to do so. Lose the why and focus on the what. Then look for how. 
...to all the coins I've dropped here
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White Rodent New user Australia 84 Posts
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What a load of baloney! Changing plans IS giving up! I do thank Tom for quoting a dead Chinaman but the said Oriental doesn't seem to have said a single word about giving up. Persistence is all very well but it should not be taken to extremes. You can be as persistent as you want if your plan is to be able to change me into a frog by saying "abracadabra" but I guarantee it won't work and you will either have to change your plans or give up. And of course as I have just brilliantly stated changing your plans IS giving up. No. I am afraid persistence is not enough. It will get you so far and in fact VERY far but it isn't the complete answer. So what is? Giving up of course!
And to prove it I guarantee you will give up on this thread before I do. And it will drive you nuts trying not to give up. So there isn't much point in not giving up is there? |
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts
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Pakar Ilusi, thank you.
tommy, who is that tautological fellow? Did he write a book too? 
Not really the same thing. 1. You can give up and quit. (Let the lesson be that it's best to just give up on everything.) Or 2. You can use your past experience and move on. (When you take what you have learned and move on, you haven't quit. You've just begun.) I like how bishthemagish said it, "it's two steps forward one step back." Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
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White Rodent New user Australia 84 Posts
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What of load of old cobblers as we say in Australia! Moving on IS giving up! You have given up on your original goal. That is giving up. You can't fool me with semantics. I will certainly agree that you are fooling yourselves with this American motivational nonsense. It is perfectly obvious to me and to everyone else that you have both lost the arguement. I think you may as well give up.
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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Never give up.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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rockwall Special user 762 Posts
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And when you make goals, make them public. It can help you stick to them. I can't tell you how many times I've been tempted to inject a comment into the political discussions but the fact that I told you all I was quitting prevented me from doing so. And as far as Ironman training goes so far, 34 mile bike ride on Saturday and 11 mile run yesterday. Slow but steady wins the race. (Well, I won't be 'winning' any races other than the race to actually complete it!)
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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On 2013-05-27 14:25, rockwall wrote: Inspired, rockwall. Go, go, go rockwall! 
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Al Angello Eternal Order Collegeville, Pa. USA 11045 Posts
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"The race is not for the swift
nor the battle for the strong but for those who can endure" White Rodent is a big Scottish sissy
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dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts
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On 2013-05-23 17:32, S2000magician wrote: And he would not have got as far as being told to give up by the vet either! I'm a bit concerned that you never saw a Dr and had to go to see a vet to get diagnosed as being lame!
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts
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You go Rockwell.
and don't let no Rodent tell you to give up. LOL Speaking of rats, I've always said, winning is like chasing rats out of the barn. You don't give up and burn the barn down to get rid of all the rats. You kill em one rat at a time until the job is done. Doesn't take long with the persistence and the rodents will start running the other way on their own. Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
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dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts
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So you are saying as long as I keep trying I will be able to run 100m in under 15 seconds then? Or should I give up on that dream?
To say just keep trying and you will get there is bull. There is no way somone can just keep trying and they will master a certain skill. Input is needed .... Whether from other or from information gained from the previous time etc. but just keep trying will not get you there. Why would it? I mean unless he goal is get the number right on a roulette wheel. Then probability says keep going, never give up and it WILL (eventually) happen. Of course if your betting too you may be forced to give up (quit ... What ever you want to call it) if all your loot runs out. Do you guys think S2000 should NOT HAVE GIVEN up at the point he did? After all he almost made it to the jumping round? But in reality he didn't. He did stop there. He quit ....... And was darn sensible to do so at that point ( in my ind at least). In fact he would have been much worse off if he had continued and his horse may well have been made into Findus Lasagne! But by your constant arguments you all think he should have carried on. He should not have given up? A this point let me say to Mr S2000 I think you did great..... And should be proud of what you did. I think you did the right thing by quitting when you did. Of course we could play semantics and use different wording ...... It was unfortunat that you were forced to stop where you got to. Who knows how bad it would have been if you had ignored the advice and never given up. Of course there is nothing stopping you from entering again. I know a guy who had been lazy all his life's and never tried and generally couldn't be arsed. He often gave up ...... But got lucky landed on his feet in a cushy job making a shed loads of money doing very little. He will give up quickly and easily, it's in his nature. Doesn't mean he's any less a nice guy or happy or less worthy as a human. I doubt that any of the line up in the mens 100m during the last Olympics got there just from trying again and again. They all will have had talent and training, their greatness spotted and then honed in training with input from others as well as dedication of themselves. I would be as bold as to suggest that none of them would have got there by just ruining up and down 100m and never quitting. There may even have been times when their coach made them stop for the day for the week session what ever they may have NEEDED to quit to have enabled further improvement? Quitting any addiction maybe deemed good for oneself (physically, mentally and spiritually even). I sure as he!! wish my wife would quit nagging about cleaning the car, washing up and putting that shelf up in the utility room! |
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dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts
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Also I think that this thread has too black and white.
I like the barn / rat analogy ..... But what if...... ...... You want to burn the barn down and kill rats. May as well do them both at the same time! I'm always up for economy.
Any way I like rats! As long as they are not in my barn. I don't have a barn so I like rats currently. |
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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And still...
Never give up your worthwhile dream.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts
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Keep striving to better youself--guaranteeing you'll always be dissatisfied and never find joy in the moment.
Push to win the rat race--whose finish line is the cemetery. Run, Dick, run!!!!
Author of: GARROTE ESCAPES
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TomBoleware Inner circle Hattiesburg, Ms 3171 Posts
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Dave, nobody said $2000 should've went on. Nobody said he gave up. You even said yourself "he was forced to stop." He didn't quit. The man torn his leg half off, his horse got hurt, and then they finally forced him to stop. We agree with you that he did great, we know that because he didn't just give up, you know why?
You never give up. Tom
The Daycare Magician Book
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Pakar Ilusi Inner circle 5777 Posts
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On 2013-05-27 18:11, Steve_Mollett wrote: Except if you're bettering yourself doing something you enjoy. You'll enjoy every moment.
Get out of the rat race if you are unhappy. All our finish lines is the cemetery basically. 
Never give up your worthwhile dream.
"Dreams aren't a matter of Chance but a matter of Choice." -DC-
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts
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Remembering that "worthwhile" is a subjective qualification.
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