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asgar
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I want to add an escape act in my show.can you guys refer a suitable act for the beginners from the tarbell?
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Keep it simple... Really Simple... I mean super simple...

Start with the "Kellar Tie." Easy to learn, fairly easy to master and simple enough to make a routine out of. Just don't use for a one shot. That is avoid, "hey I am tied up hey I am free." Make a routine out of it.
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HMM... I think a mailbag escape is a good starter too
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Thumb stocks
thumb cuffs
In again out again
Comedy tie while sitting
Thumb tie
Stocks of Zanzibar might be a good second escape.


A mail bag really? Right out of the gate? That's the first thing you recommend? What's the second, a water torture cell?
A new performer needs some experience to control the audience from looking while they're covered and that's not something they can usually handle. Really. a mail bag for the first escape. I don't know about you but whenever I'm covered I always hear talk from people that want to come-up and bust me.
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Jay, I think Curtis was playing off the idea that asgar wants to add an escape to a pre existing show. I would certianly agree with you that the mailbag is not the best starter escape to learn, I would see it as possible if a magic show wants a strong closer.
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Cliff, normally I would tend to agree with you, but if you look at Asgars query, and then at Curtis's you'll notice that the original question is quite specific. Asgar has never done escapes and wants to ADD AN (meaning one single) act to an existing NON-escapes act. Then we see Curtis recommending the mail bag as a "good starter". Horrible advice. Opinions based on real experience AND actual teaching/mentoring/apprenticing the art are respected.... like Jay's. I have nothing but to utmost respect for anything that man says.
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On 2013-05-25 15:58, thegreatnippulini wrote:
Cliff, normally I would tend to agree with you, but if you look at Asgars query, and then at Curtis's you'll notice that the original question is quite specific. Asgar has never done escapes and wants to ADD AN (meaning one single) act to an existing NON-escapes act.


This is crazy remark and a failed attempt at trying to create an argument with me as you usually do...
He wanted to add an escape to his existing (magic) SHOW, so I assumed the gentleman had stage experience.
Also, I was speaking from the overall ease of the escape that is not too difficult or dangerous. I can not personally speak of any issues that Jay or Thegreatnippulini has had with their performance(s) with this escape. However, out of the hundreds of times that I have performed this escape, I have never had issue(s) with the audience coming up trying to bust me out, maybe it is due to my staging of the effect and over all personality I portray in my show. I tend to get my audience rooting for my success not for my demise. Again this is from my experience and not anyone else's.

I have performed this escape many ways, a good way to start off for the first few times is having a cloth over the mailbag and have people standing on each corner of the cloth. I have found that this keeps people from peeking and coming up.

Through time, I was able to re-stage this differently that even had a greater impact.

Also, Jay has made a few good suggestions as well as cliff.

Keep us posted on what you end up selecting.
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Thanks for the advices guys.I have utmost respect for the escape acts and have regrets that I am starting out this late.i am talking about my stage show,so unless I have someone from the audience at the stage during the escape,the peeking should be minimum.
I am looking at the beginner escapes or specifically the spirit ties and slip knots from Trabell but my target is mailbag escape.Simply because it is the only one affordable, easy to perform at this time and its something people are gonna talk about after the show.I am not looking for just an act ,I want to master the art.I am ready to go through time,physical and mental labor needed for that.In fact I always liked a little pain and thrill.So please give me some advices on resources and training.I downloaded some books on lock picking but never had the time to look at it before.Where should I start?I am already very thrilled.Thanks.
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You should consider adding two escapes, of different sorts. Kellar and mailbag are complimentary, in that they have different approaches and goals.

Kellar is, in a way, in-your face, and usually played for comedy. It's interactive, and a good puzzle for the audience. There are a couple of handling issues that are easily learned in person, for which I've never seen adequate written instruction.

In the same vein, there's a simple out-and-in tie in the Burling Hull book (I think it's there) that involves a figure-8 configuration, and can be done with rope or chain. Thumb ties are usually used in the same way.

Siberian Chain is also in the same vein, but it's a bit more difficult to handle. If you lose the loop, your out-and-in speed is blown.

An advantage of the above, is that they can also be handled as Spirit Ties, where you are still bound at the end, and need to have someone get you out. For both comedy and seance-style value, this is great material, because you can play it all completely innocently, no clue in the world. I prefer playing them in full sight, though some folks like a cover of some sort.

Mailbag goes for the more mysterious approach, and can involve a greater number of volunteers. It requires cover, so if you used a sheet, spread over the top of you in the bag, you could have a vol stand on each corner of the sheet. I suppose you could also do this as an out-and-in, reaching out from under the sheet to grab vols by the ankle.

If you were wrapped in chain, before entering the bag, you could bring out each end of the chain, and bind each of two vols ankles, which would be a nice plot complication. But then, when they looked, you'd still be in the bag.

I would not recommend doing both escapes as out-and-ins. It's thematically too much of the same thing.
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Recommended reading:
http://trickshop.com/rope-chain-box-escapes-grant.html
http://trickshop.com/rope-ties-chain-releases.html
http://www.tannens.com/shop//cart.php?m=......l&p=6312

If you can find a copy of Burling Hull's "Gold Medal Showmanship" (good luck), there's a good section on showmanship for the escape artist.
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Gimmicked straight jacket?
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Gimmicked straight jacket?


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