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Will gladly do so. Been trying hard. I will now just ignore, and I mean no disrespect for ignoring further discussion that has nothing to do with the original topic

Thank you.
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Ed---

DONE.

Thank you for reminding us of the civility with which we--as Christians--ought to conduct ourselves.

Blessings and peace to all.
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I am gobsmacked...Mike, Ed...you really know your stuff! Man, I've had my Bible out and looked up everything said, and wow. It's amazing. Danny, I don't get the anger. Mike really revealed some stuff to me, I never noticed before. It's like a light went on! Thank you. You got me to open my Bible!

Ed...wow. I don't know what to say. Amazing insight! I've been a Christian since 1977. I was "Catholic" before that. A title, I didn't know what meant. Then it happened. I won't go into it here. It belongs in Science Fiction stories more than theology. So, I found out who Yeshua IS! Not WAS...IS! 'Nuff said. It's so simple...

The part of God who spoke to Adam became one of us! Showed us who God is, and how to treat each other! He said nothing else is as important! How we treat each other! The Ancient Ones say we are "The Insane Asylum Of The Universe". Gee, I wonder how they came to that conclusion? Ha haa!

Look at us. We can't even have an intelligent conversation without someone taking offense at something! And we all pretty much agree on the basic thing! Mike opened my eyes about relics. It answers questions...eh...best left for other times. Oh, also remember The Ark! Touch that, and ya DONE! Killed ya dead! Relic? Gee, I wonder where it is today. I wouldn't go NEAR it!

I'm not Catholic. I'm not Protestant. I'm not a LABEL! We humans hung that man up like an animal. Treated him with the worst indignity one could! Nauseates me, but it made a way for us to be with The Father again! God wanted us back, and They found a way! You bet He's alive! My gosh...I don't think the mind can conceive what They have planned! Doesn't matter. You already love God with all your heart! However, it is much harder to grasp the idea of your fellow man is YOU!

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Dougini,

It's very good to see you getting blessed!

Doug
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Yes, glad to hear that Dougini.

2 Corinthians 4:16-18 So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day. For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal.


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Dougini--

Praise be to the Father, and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit! It is terrific to see you so fired up, Brother!

May that fire keep on a burnin'!
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Long live good ol' Dougini! Smile
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Ahhh, gee. 'T'ain't nuthin', guys. I'm nobody. Thank'y though! Smile We gotta focus on how we treat each other, that's all. I figure, if I can put a smile on one person's face today, I've done my job! That was my motto as Radio Disc Jockey. Now, if every person on Earth did that...

How many smiles...? Woo...
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Smilin' Dougini...Smilin'!
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Smile
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On 2013-05-31 11:20, Ed_Millis wrote:
Mike, Danny, Vlad -- can we please stop derailing decent threads with doctrinal/historical debates? Whilst y'all are having a hash-out, we have two Dougs and a Payne who are getting that much more evidence for why they don't want anything to do with this. Does it really matter who started it or what was really said? Can someone please be Christain enough to stop and walk away from this thread, and if the discussion must continue to do it elsewhere so the OP can get back to his question?

Ed I have to totally agree - this is posted on an OPEN MAGIC forum, which anyone can read

I use my gift of illusion and puppets to bring people to Christ.

Continued arguments like these make that job much harder.

Mike - the FCM is deliberately non- doctrinal. We have a simple three-line declaration of faith. There is NO discussion of this when we meet, we are all Christians interesting in magic. And this also means that I am welcome in a wide variety of Churches around the World.
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Apprentice:

I understand that the FCM OFFICIALLY has a simple statement of faith...and I agree with that (or would never have joined).

In practice, however, I see a much different thing.

99% of the folks I interact with truly show the love of Christ...and I appreciate that. It's that darned 1%, though........Smile
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So take it up with them in private then, not on a public forum

all the non-Christian magicians see is Christians bickering among themselves - hardly a way of spreading the "Good News"

this is supposed to be a forum thread for new tricks/routines not doctrinal arguments
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If you would take the time to read the original poster's question, it was PRECISELY about doctrinal differences.
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Hi mike - don't know why I'm bothering you except YOU seem to know what your talking about- did you get my last PM? - June 4 is my 76 Birthday and also getting a BONE SCAN for the Big C -mentioned in PM- Fri 7th should get ALL?? results- its nice to be able to talk to a CHRISTIAN when one can. In my last PM it was because seeing that Government is approving imorality-1.Abortion(killing)- 2.Promoting GAYs (marriage etc.) and NOW 3. approving Pill for Girls 12 years old not to get Pregnant. So I wanted to have something in my Gospel Program about GODs
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Ralph: I did get the PM. Sorry I haven't replied yet. I think there are probably a few effects that would do a great job illustrating the gift of sex in marriage. I'm glad you have now posted here publicly as well. Now will have lots of fertile (no pun intended) minds working on it.

It might be a good idea to start a new thread, though...which I will do for you, since I know your computer time is very limited.
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Mike, its the 1% that proves we are not perfect and for that matter will never be.
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On 2013-06-03 10:24, Mike Maturen wrote:
If you would take the time to read the original poster's question, it was PRECISELY about doctrinal differences.


which should not be on a public magic site
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Perhaps not, Apprentice...but it was. We were all simply responding to the question...and it devolved from there. We DO still (at least here in the US) have freedom of speech...at least for a while.
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Why should it not be on a public magic site??
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