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snowpuppy Veteran user Juneau,Alaska 325 Posts 
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I recently recieved a box of miscallaneous Magic most without instructions and I found thease Handcuffs.If they are trick cuffs,...they have me stumped.Anyone know anything about them?
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Cliffg37 Inner circle Long Beach, CA 2491 Posts
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They are not trick cuffs per se. In my home town of new York, the cops called them "toy cuffs." They do lock, and the lever on the front is half ***ed double lock. They can picked with almost any small thin object. They are also older, as the modern ones have quick release levers that make them useless.
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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On 2013-06-08 00:24, Cliffg37 wrote: what's this mean Cliff?? I am not good at crossword either
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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Here is a drawing of the inside of the cuff. Anything small enough inserted to lift the blue lever will open the cuff. I use wooden match sticks, the disgard them.
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james_unlimited Loyal user UK 223 Posts
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http://www.blacksteel.com/hcs/index.cgi?......tart=484
They look a bit too shiny to be the above. would have been a nice find though. |
dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts
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On 2013-06-08 08:20, Ian McColl wrote: So I may be showing my naivety but what's the point of a double lock that can be turned on and off with the flick of a leaver? Couldn't the prisoner take the double lock off tighten the cuff, put it back on and then claim 'abuse'? And it being double locked isn't going to be stopping one popping the double lock off and shi***ng the cuff off!!! (Ian you said you're not good at crosswords so I'll add an extra clue .... it is NOT the past tense for taking a poo!)...... Would the "past tense of pooing" help get a cuff off? May be if it was runny you could use it as a lubricant to help slip it? Hey it worked for Andy Dufresne in Shawshank!   
If anyone can answer what the point is I would be very interested to know. Also if I have offended anyone or grossed anyone out by linking faeces with a lubricant I do apologise. I can't see it grossing anyone out too much unless they were eating a Marmite (or vegemite) or chocolate spread sandwich at the time! Sorry if I did. PS I do realise that 'shi**ing' may not be an option with this type of cuff. The one I have can't be shimmed (although that could be in-competence on my behalf!)!!!!! |
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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You are right Dave, the lever on the outside of the cuff will turn the inner piece to double lock (restrict the upward movement) of the lever, or turned away allow room for the lever to rise. This has been the same design on all models after the original Japanese Takeda design from the 1940's. I guess the reasoning is this; in a normal ratchet handcuff, if it is not double locked, it can be shimmed. As the star (pin) wheel design cannot be shimmed there is not lessing of the security. Double locking this type of mechanism, is only an advantage of comfort afforded to the prisoner. If the prisoner turns the lever, then the cuff can tighten. If the suspect doesn't want the added pain, they would leave it alone. As to your other theory..........Dave you are a bad bad man. vegemite is always better than marmite. To test out your other theory of lubbing a wrist, you would have to ask someone with experience of Mr Hankey adventures
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dave_matkin Inner circle 4522 Posts
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Mmmmm why us Vegemite better than Marmite I have never tried Vegemite? I live about 7 miles from the home of Marmite and if the wind is blowing from the north west we can smell it - well we can smell the waste products of brewing (same difference really).
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Mick Hanzlik Special user Mick Hanzlik 588 Posts
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I tried a jar of Vegemite once.Sorry Ian, in my house Marmite is the winner. Now you shoud try Cadbury's chocolate - best in the world! If you can't get it, let me know and I'll send you some.
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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Hi Mick, Cadbury was okay but now it's US owned. Now we get the spin.
Cadbury block was 250 grams weight, then it dropped with the new ownership to 200 grams. Now they advertise, get 10% more Joyville. The bars are now 220 grams, so I have still been ripped off 30 grams. Vegemite puts hair on your chest!!! Also good for greasing your car. Dave, Bug Al is also escape artist
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Steve_Mollett Inner circle Eh, so I've made 3006 Posts
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On 2013-06-08 20:22, Ian McColl wrote: Plus, if the cuffs are applied behind the prisoner's back (standard procedure) he might not even know the levers are there, making a half-baked attempt at picking or using a duplicate key that much more frustrating.
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I tried Vegemite once.
If I ever decide I want that taste again, I'll just pour salt in my mouth. 
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Ian McColl Inner circle 1493 Posts
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On 2013-06-09 17:23, Steve_Mollett wrote: so, so many jokes spawned................
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