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djurmann Inner circle thinks time to practice and stop writing 1481 Posts |
Picture this. You go a gig, seated guests, and as part of the trick you ask a spec to hold your wallet. At the end of the trick (because they are drunk and think it funny) they refuse to give it back.
What do you do? Danny |
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plink Special user 661 Posts |
Put your wallet on the table pinned down by the 'salt shaker of death' get the soberest person to stick a fork in the hand of anyone getting close to it until the thrilling climax.
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slyhand Inner circle Good ole Virginia 1908 Posts |
Maybe tell him that 5 seconds is funny, 10 seconds is annoying, 15 seconds is theft and 20 seconds you will need to get assistance from the host.
I am getting so tired of slitting the throats of people who say that I am a violent psychopath.
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Yeah, I've had it happen a few times, but usually they were just joking. It gets a little more problematic if they find an accomplice... kind of a juvenile game of keep-away. Just the usual stupid bully stuff. Once though, I had a drunk chick take a jumbo half dollar and refuse to give it back. I actually had to get the management over to help out. It was probably one of those situations where she would not have been nearly as obnoxious and unreasonable had she not been drunk. Yep, there are some people who turn into monsters when they drink.
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george1953 Inner circle Mallorca (Spain) 5943 Posts |
Calmly explain that a punch in the mouth often ofends :0
By failing to prepare, we are preparing to fail.
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Christopher Lyle Inner circle Dallas, Texas 5698 Posts |
Audience Management! Don't pick the .douche'. to help you out!
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Don't hand an audience member your wallet.
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Dimitri Mystery Artist Veteran user Israel/Ukraine 355 Posts |
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On 2013-06-11 12:12, Christopher Lyle wrote: I second this! |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Yea pick better people.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Or drop doing that trick.
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Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Or have an extra wallet (or a fake) wallet to give out to the audience that doesn't matter if they keep it. You may want to fill it with your business cards and have the guy pass it around.
I hope this helps
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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ShirtlessKirk Loyal user 236 Posts |
Don't use drunks.
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Jac -dutch- Regular user The Netherlands, 175 Posts |
All advise sounds good to me!
In the book (close up) of David Stone, he give all so all this advise too. When you don't get it back, talk to the person (give them a bad feeling!) and walk alway. Most of the time you get it back. Remember always: "be nice"! (Like Patrick Swayze said in Roadhouse!) I can really understand you that the wallet have a bigger value than just card/biljet and hard to lose it! |
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Dannydoyle Eternal Order 21219 Posts |
Well walking away is simply not going to happen.
I can't imagine why that would be in the routine in the first place. I have seen it done and it never really added anything to the presentation.
Danny Doyle
<BR>Semper Occultus <BR>In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act....George Orwell |
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Matthew Crabtree Special user 611 Posts |
One thing I learned over the years. Never hand anything out you can't do with out. Drink are spilled little grubby hands leave child stains and some people have to be the center of everything.
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TheAmbitiousCard Eternal Order Northern California 13425 Posts |
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On 2013-06-11 12:15, bishthemagish wrote: +1
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pepka Inner circle Uh, I'm the one on the right. 5041 Posts |
I have handed my wallet, gaffed and full of cash and credit cards to a spectator once or twice. This is as I'm revealing a card that was in the wallet. Of course, this is only at the end of my routine, and I've had at least 10-15 minutes to get a read on someone. I never had a problem getting it back. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that I'm 6" 1', over 300 lbs, bald and tattoed. Normally, if there is a table, I just drop it there and it's no big deal. I think it invites more suspicion when you immediately shove it in your pocket. It just seems natural to leave on the table for a moment or even say "Here, hold this please." I HAVE had spectators think they are cute by holding a coin, sponge ball or pen and act like they are keeping it. I normally give a really fake laugh and remind them that "Hey I love ya, but it's not a gift." Last week, I had a great table of all adults and while doing Charming Chinese Challenge, every time a coin was in her hand, she dropped it down her shirt. We all had a nice laugh and I just joked that I WOULD go in to get my property.
I think you just have to be very careful in how you read people. I would never hand someone something right at the beginning of my set. |
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Michael Baker Eternal Order Near a river in the Midwest 11172 Posts |
Just thinking here, but it struck me that maybe the rest of the act should be examined first. Is there any point where the magician has teased the audience, even with innocent joking? Has a bill, or ring, or watch been borrowed? Typically, the only time a magician borrows such things, there is the implied pseudo-threat that it may "disappear" or come to harm. Of course, that is never the outcome, and we know the ending well before the audience does, but has the thought entered anyone's mind? Did the spectators jokingly mention things like, "Watch your wallets!", or "Can you make so & so disappear?"
Quite often, certain spectators will "add" to the fun if they are having a good time, but like lots of practical jokes, not everyone is good at delivering the punchline and letting the victim off the hook.
~michael baker
The Magic Company |
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jimvines Regular user Brooklyn, NY 161 Posts |
Audience management 101: don't ask drunks to assist in any way.
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bishthemagish Inner circle 6013 Posts |
Whenever I run into a problem with a spectator - for me I feel it is time to edit the material. I learned a long time ago that I "have" control over the material I present. But I have little control over how an audience or audience member is going to react to that material.
If I get an audience reaction I don't like - I edit. I hope this helps
Glenn Bishop Cardician
Producer of the DVD Punch Deal Pro Publisher of Glenn Bishop's Ace Cutting And Block Transfer Triumphs |
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