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NateReeves
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Are there any ungimmicked chop cup routines out there that don't use a wand and only use one ball?
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Eric Henning's routine comes close. You could also look at Mark Jenest's "Jiggernaut".
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Actually, an ungimmicked Chop Cup is just a cup.

I thought Jiggernaut was gimmicked.
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Nope. Jiggernaut is performed with an ungaffed jigger.
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Christian Jedinat's Kaffeewette ("Coffee Bet") comes close - an ungimmicked cup and a single bill.

For more info see: http://www.jedinat.com

(...with thanks to Bill Palmer)
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On 2013-06-12 17:38, Dave V wrote:
Actually, an ungimmicked Chop Cup is just a cup...


lol. The late Patrick Page used to perform a short routine with just one ungimmicked cup.
If anyone asked him about his 'Chop Cup' routine he'd reply "It's NOT a Chop Cup, it's a bl**dy cup!"

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Before the Wheatley Cup became popular there were many effects using a cup and small object. Some were gaffed in interesting ways and others not.
When a magician in our CIrcle demonstrated the Chop Cup back in the 60's several other members immediately demonstrate how to duplicate every move with no gaff.

The answer to your question is out there, but may not be on the Internet. Look to the result you are attempting to achieve and focus on Methods that will achieve it.

Don't try an duplicate a ChopCup -- just do something magical. Check out "Scout Around" -- most Effects use no gaff, but one can be introduced if desired and then removed. "FoldCup" also uses no gaff.
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Craig Petty has a multiphase routine that uses a borrowed cup & borrowed bill. It's called Chop.
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John Carney's Chop Cup is a GREAT routine....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Xctoqw1Ls
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And of course Axel Hecklau's "Just a Cup", an ungimmicked leather dice cup.
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On 2013-06-13 22:37, Magic from A to Z wrote:
John Carney's Chop Cup is a GREAT routine....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Xctoqw1Ls

Actually, that's ungimmicked - not a chop cup. But, it is an excellent routine.
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Bob White has an ungimmicked chop cup routine from his Cups and Balls: A Practical Approach DVD. It's listed on the back as "Dai Vernon's Single Cup and Ball Routine from his 1968 Lecture."
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Okay. Let's quit butchering the English language. If it's an ungimmicked cup routine, then it's NOT a Chop Cup. It's a cup. Period.

If you have the Tarbell course, look up Clarke Crandall's one cup routine.

If you don't have the Tarbell course, what the heck are you doing on a magic forum?
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On 2013-06-18 14:15, Bill Palmer wrote...

Okay. Let's quit butchering the English language. If it's an ungimmicked cup routine, then it's NOT a Chop Cup. It's a cup. Period.

And the distinction between a bowl and a cup is purely subjective, too. See "sake cup" in Google Images for examples. Oh, some of them look like boxes, some look like baskets, and some look like saucers? Glass, wood, bamboo, ceramics, metal, plastic, and even papier mâché? Well, if someone didn't write a routine about it in a magic book or sell it at a magic supply store, you'd better not use it. Smile
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On 2013-06-18 14:15, Bill Palmer wrote:
Okay. Let's quit butchering the English language. If it's an ungimmicked cup routine, then it's NOT a Chop Cup. It's a cup. Period.



That's EXACTLY what I thought when I read the title of this thread!
It may be a cup, bowl, box, hat, or other any other vessel - but it ain't chopped unless it's chopped.
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You should see my ungimmicked Svengali deck routine... Smile
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Can anyone remember the routine that's designed for magicians as the audience, and where they think the cup is chopped but it turns out it isn't?

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I think everyone has already given the name of this routine as they know it.

Don't forget to condition them with the fair ball before using the chopped one!
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On 2013-06-13 22:37, Magic from A to Z wrote:
John Carney's Chop Cup is a GREAT routine....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5Xctoqw1Ls


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