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Atlas Inner circle 3103 1277 Posts |
Hello everyone! I thought I'd take a moment to thank all of you who have contributed to this thread in my absence. I also like a lot of touches that have been shared recently, and I think it illustrates that our community has a lot to offer one another. The fact that you get a lot of subsidiary ideas and presentational adjustments is one of the advantages of sharing something like this.
To address Steve's post above, there was never any question that this is a "Mind Reader's ACAAN". It has been billed as such from the start. However, unsurprisingly, many of the purchasers of this effect are card guys and not mind readers, and were drawn by all the great feedback that was posted here. In light of that, I believe that Andrew was contacted by some of them asking about presentations that did not have their basis in the premise of mind reading. Being the kind gentleman that Andrew is, and in an attempt to help address those requests, Andrew posted the above with the aim of offering them some ideas about how to alter the piece to fit their individual performance preferences. As to the supplement, I am very pleased that everyone has enjoyed the additional ideas there! Moving forward in this thread, I would be very interested in hearing feedback regarding the reception of the effect and I'm particularly curious to know if anyone is following this up as we recommended in the book itself. I've seen plenty of ecstatic feedback about The Crusade itself in performance, but I haven't heard a word about how it has been followed up in a set. Again, thanks to everyone for making this release such a success! Best, Atlas |
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Lar Veteran user New Port Richey, FL 318 Posts |
I've been using 'Crusade' is my pre-closer.
My closer (and it's been my closer for a while) is 'Up The Ante' by Martyn Smith. I think UTA is brilliant. As the effect builds and the stakes get higher the impossibility of what is about to happen draws everyone in - they NEED to see what happens at the end. The conclusion is absolutely stunning and leaves people gobsmacked. I have some faux million dollar bills (and other denominations) which I use for the effect so that participants can place their bets. The million dollar bills have my contact details on which I then give away because I'm that generous Using UTA after Crusade builds upon the gambling theme and it allows the the spectators to freely shuffle and handle the cards. A deck switch brings my UTA deck into play and because of all the shuffling in Crusade there is no question of a setup when I do UTA. Cheers to Andrew & Atlas for their continued support for Crusade and my thanks to those who enjoyed 'High Anxiety' Best wishes, Lar. |
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
If I'm using my own deck I do a deck switch and follow it up with Richard Osterlinds Radar a Deck, after crusade and Radar deck they are convinced I can read minds, after that I will usually do a drawing dupe with PAC Stack and I will usually leave it there, if pushed then I will either do a CT or I may use telefoto combined with isobellas star to give a reading finishing with revealing their star sign and then their birth date. I will finish that off with Scott Cramms Day for any date effect Day One which leaves them with my business card, with the calendar from the month/year of their birth on the back. Then I'm done no matter how hard they push for more.
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts |
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On 2013-08-16 18:52, MagicAtlas wrote: I sprung for the extra $3 for the follow-up effect. Most of you here know the original trick since it's a classic of magic. It's kind of similar to a version of the same thing that I have from Rich Ferguson on one of his "Mentalism" DVD's, but I would put it at a step above Ferguson's, which means that it's two steps above the original. I tried the double shot once this past weekend, and the reaction to both tricks was very nice. I might be committing heresy here by saying that I believe that the follow-up trick got a better reaction than "The Crusade". :bat: |
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Atlas Inner circle 3103 1277 Posts |
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I tried the double shot once this past weekend, and the reaction to both tricks was very nice. That's not heresy at all. I've long contended that a proper routine is one in which each component part builds in synergy with the others until the overall effect becomes irresistible. With 'The Crusade', you are showing them what you are capable of. With the recommended follow up, you are showing the participants that they have the same inherent capacity, albeit at a more basic level (simply because they haven't trained themselves as you have). As Ken Weber and Lee Earle have contended for a long time - people are interested in themselves above all, and when you close that set with a piece whose focus IS the participant, the reaction will be both entertaining and powerful. Each piece here leads naturally to the next, it gives you something to do with the talon, and both participants have the spotlight turned on to them. I like it a lot. I have to admit to being interested in what Mark and Lars have shared regarding finishing their sets. Some of the effects there I am not familiar with and that will have to be remedied! Best, Atlas |
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BatsMagic Inner circle New York 1052 Posts |
Well said, Atlas!
The follow up, "Nu Way........", was greeted with some derision while I was performing for a small group of friends, especially when the pack was handed over to a female spectator to place the cards down herself (I always choose a woman to finish it off!). I added a few nuances that Ferguson teaches, combined with the JW Turnover (Addition Number 1 I already knew from Ferguson), and it was a very pretty thing. The woman who placed the final 16 or 20 cards down did nothing but laugh that "I can't believe what I just did" laugh. The cards were checked by two different people just to be sure that all of the ducks were in a row. They were. Nice! :bat: |
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Mark_Chandaue Inner circle Essex UK 4187 Posts |
I love the radar deck as a follow up when using my own deck. With the crusade you read two minds in a very fair manner, almost under test conditions, then with Richard Osterlinds radar deck you increase that to naming four peoples thought of cards one after the other quick fire and even name the card somebody thought of before changing their mind. Paul Carnazzo's PAC stack is about the cleanest most deceptive close up drawing dupe going. If people don't believe you can really read minds after that demonstration then you need to quit mentalism and take up knitting.
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
Going back to the barrie Richardson acaan question....I loved barrie's acaan, I used perform it anytime I could! But the deeper I got into mentalism the more I was thinking it just comes across as a 'card trick' while the rest of the stuff I performed was "the real deal" so I stopped performing it and started looking for an acaan version to fit my style.
Then I was talking to atlas one day who told me about this new accan version that himself and Andrew would be releasing very soon, just from the brief description I knew this was the one I was looking for! I have a couple of friends that think they know everything so when I perform ANYTHING they always try to work out how I did it but with the crusade they didn't even try to work out how it was done and that to me is a really hard hitting effect! I really can't praise this enough, defo one of my best purchases ever! Kieran |
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
I also would like to see a performance clip of the crusade, just to see if anyone can perform it as good as me!
Kieran |
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a brown 1968 Elite user 470 Posts |
Hi Kieran
Thank you for summing up so well the nature of Crusade .. To entertain and baffle know it all friends is a goal for any effect but to remove the desire for the friends to work out the method puts an effect on another level . One day I may bump into you at a convention in England and I can watch your performance of Crusade. Andrew |
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Jordanogrady Loyal user 255 Posts |
I've been reading about this for a while now, the 1 and only reason I havnt purchased this is because its a book format, if it was on DVD I would have purchased this by now with all the reviews... its just my personal preferance, I'm shocking at learning from books, its never interested me learning from books, I like visual learning
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Magicsquared Inner circle 1262 Posts |
There aren't really "moves" to this effect. It's more of a procedure you follow. So it's very easy to learn it in written format. I would think it's even easier than watching it done to be honest.
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
Trust me Jordan if I can learn it anyone can!
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magicman29 Inner circle hertfordshire 1245 Posts |
Trust me Jordan if I can learn it anyone can!
Kieran |
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Jordanogrady Loyal user 255 Posts |
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On 2013-08-28 17:33, magicman29 wrote: Im not saying it wont be worth it, it probably will be, I just prefer DVD's that's all. |
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rasp Inner circle 1124 Posts |
Jordan it is a fantastic routine........... Buy it you will not be disappointed !!!
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Jordanogrady Loyal user 255 Posts |
Where is the link? I cant find it?
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doriancaudal Inner circle 1532 Posts |
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On 2013-08-28 17:27, Jordanogrady wrote: That is exactly why some of the best secrets in magic are kept on books... Hopefully, to keep away the lazy DVD-youtube ones
Hands-off ACAAN - freely chosen card and number : http://doriancaudal.wix.com/miracaan
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reignofsound Inner circle Glasgow, UK 2199 Posts |
Where can I buy this?
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GordonTheHypnotist Elite user Don't Read This Sign 495 Posts |
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On 2013-08-29 04:05, reignofsound wrote: http://www.atlasmentalism.com/AtlasProductsCatalog.html
Gullibility is an attractive quality in people
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