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magic in mind Special user 851 Posts |
Have a look on my post re v deck.Putting finishing touches to this routine.Firstly stc so well made, though I'm a card splitter etc.Carnt see me making anything as good as this.I look at it in a mirror and amaze myself.Its incredible.If your sitting on the fence on this one get the combo pack I wish I had.V deck can use any colour deck.So the routine is give the spec the deck and examine it,take a card they like.when they have, take back the deck,do the dirty work for the v deck whilst they sign card.But have stc gimmick in your hand as well.Whatever card they have chosen talk about that card being a symbol of a born survivor.The card actually chose them.Do stc see,,your card is unharmed.A born survivor.Like you.show a few cards re v deck dvd.You could have chosen any card.Put stc underneath top card so not to harm it when you slide into box.Do the v deck routine.All have faded away but your card and like the survivor you are,still here.When everyone else has gone.Take out the only card that's left in the box.Sign the back putting best of luck And there name.Then do my version of torched and restored.They will see the back of their card being ripped to pieces, your signature with best of luck.At one point clearly have the piece off the back with there name on it in your other hand,showing it to be completely removed.Do the work.Restore and see a born survivor just like you.Give them card to keep.You just have my modded gimmick for torched and restored already signed apart from name which you add when signing the back of their card.Carnt say anymore about adding or modding the gimmick for torched and restored without giving it away.
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Peter Nardi Inner circle 2238 Posts |
Loving the ideas guys!
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
How are you guys ditching the gaff card after the effect? maybe just a gambler's cop and put it in your pocket while they're examining their card and sharpie?
how about this: when they are examining their card, you turn all the cards in the deck over except the top card (so now the deck is face up, but it looks face down). you tell them to put their card back in the deck (face down). you put the cards back in the case. you flip the case a few times. tell them that you made all the cards turn face up except their card. take the cards out of the case, retaining the gimmick card in the case. hand the spectator the deck, and their card will be the only face down card. put the case with the gimmick card away. if you have an invisible deck (ideally of a differnet colour), you can say how this trick works with a thought of card, break out your ID, show a thought of card face down. then go back to doing tricks with your origional deck. |
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
What do you guy think of doing ignition and/or pen thru card after doing S.T.C?
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2013-09-09 01:42, AdamChance wrote: I'd say overkill. |
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
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On 2013-09-09 01:43, Zombie Magic wrote: but is overkill good or bad? let's say you draw your fake hole on the face of the card, put the sharpie through... they hold the sharpie, then you turn their card back over. they are holding the sharpie, so they know the sharpie is real... so their only thought might be that it wasn't their card that you put the sharpie through. but if you do something like ignition right after, now they see your key go right through their card, and they see it on both sides (with their signiture)... and they can examine the card and they key (and the sharpie). so when they try and work out the method, it would be very difficult because the penetrations use a different method (and I think spectators tend to think that the same method is used for both, and therefore, they can't reach a correct explanation). I think that performing the same trick with a different method can be very strong. because maybe their first thought is that it isn't really their card... but the second penetration proves that it really was their card. their next thought is that the item doing the penetration is gimmicked... but they're holding the sharpie and can examine everything, so that can't be the method either. I think if both penetrations are done is quick succession... sorta presenting it like a "throw away" instead of building the effect up... it helps prove the effect using the two different methods. I recently bought the pen through dollar (the gray normal looking pen) ... and it looks really good going through the card... a very convincing illusion. but if you did sharpie through card... then pen through card, then ignition.... I'm thinking they wont know what hit them. they just saw 3 normal objects go right through their card and they're able to examine everything... and when you combine all the effects, how are they supposed to know what's going on? if using the drawn on hole presentation, the difficult part will be hitting the hole with the pen and ignition... but with practice (and a bigish hole) it should be no problem. |
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AngeloAces New user Brooklyn New York 54 Posts |
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On 2013-09-09 21:11, AdamChance wrote: It depends on you as a magician I guess...I think doing it would be redundant and overkill. But you can do ignition for people who will say "Show everyone that sharpie through the card thing!" later on in the day or night and that would be great and it really adds to your mystique as a magician. |
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rasmus Inner circle Switzerland 1696 Posts |
I played around with the gimmick and have to admit, the blue gimmick looks terrific. the red one
is not as good as the blue one imo (the preparation is pretty visible under certain light conditions. the gimmick is really extremely well done (i would never try to construct this). the doublelift that is needed for the bring in and the clean up is pretty hard to achieve (because of the thickness of the gimmick). I will give it a try with sience friction spray to see how it plays. at the moment, a top change is definetly the way to go for me. just my 5 swissfrancs
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
Try the science friction my friend. Makes a big difference. Push off to the side with your forefinger from the true top then flip.
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
Ya, the DL is a little bit tough to do properly. since the gimmick doesn't bend, I can't really do my standard DL. I do the DL using my thumb on the bottom edge and my middle finger along the top edge. I use my left thumb to do the flip while my right middle finger slides along the top edge and my right thumb slides along the bottom edge.
but since this is an opener to an ACR for me, it doesn't look suspecious since I haven't done any other DLs yet... so they have nothing to compare it to yet. |
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saysold1 Eternal Order Recovering Cafe addict with only 10794 Posts |
That's why science friction and STC are an ideal match. The Dl is easy with a small amount of treatment on the card center.
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Xcath1 Inner circle 3052 Posts |
I have been having a lot of fun with this but I do use it as a standalone with a deck that's half full of previously signed cards. I am sure you can work a routine or 2 around it. But let's face it you kind of have to be careful with the gaff and I like to get it back in the box as soon as possible. I would not like to palm it off and have it floating Ina pocket. I have also used SF and like it for this trick but a flip over double is not that hard to do and it's a pretty expensive can of spray if you don't have a day job.
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frankieacemagic Elite user 498 Posts |
Hello everyone. I'm just about to purchase this, but I have a question about its thickness. Is it the same thickness as the traditional cig through card? I like to keep that card in the wrapper on the outside of my deck. It can't be seen because it looks like it's the design on the outside of the box. Then I can bring it into play when I want to use it. Would I be able to do that with the STC? Or is it thicker than the cig thru card? Thank you!
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videoman Inner circle 6732 Posts |
I have tried the wrapper thing and found the STC would fit but it was just too tight of a fit for my taste.
However, I believe there is probably some variance in card box manufacturing so it may be possible in some cases, but I kind of doubt it. |
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saverle Regular user The Netherlands 114 Posts |
What a funny coincidence. Recently I bought The Amazing Magical Wonder deck by Mr. Mysterio, with a pack of cards and a nice booklet, and it contained several gimmicked cards, including the pencil through card trick! Because I also own the Alakazam Sharpie through card, I could compare these, and the principle is exactly the same! Of course, the Sharpie gimmick has a bigger h**e.
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AdamChance Special user 656 Posts |
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On 2013-09-28 14:10, frankieacemagic wrote: I forget where I bought my cig through card... so not sure if there are more than one version... but S.T.C is definately thiner than the cig through card gimmick I have. S.T.C is certainly thicker than a single card... but it's as thick or maybe even less thick than 2 cards. so when I got it, I was happy with how thin the gimmick is. the problem with the DL is not really in the thickness of the card, but more so that the card doesn't really bend much. so that's what makes the DL tricky. but it's certainly possible to do it convincingly. just gotta practice and find a method that works for you. from what people have posted, science friction seems like the ideal solution... but I've managed to do it without resorting to that. |
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frankieacemagic Elite user 498 Posts |
Thanks, everyone, for the responses. Looks like another worker! I love the idea of having a card selected and signed, t - - change, sharpie through card, t - - change, examined, then pen through anything. I know some of you said overkill, but I love the fact that all possible gimmicks are ruled out at that point!
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Peter Nardi Inner circle 2238 Posts |
Really glad you're all enjoying your STC's. I still have so much fun performing it.
Peter |
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Slartibartfaust Loyal user Canada 213 Posts |
I just received this fantastic effect and had to chime in
Bravo Mr. Nardi! The gimmick is so well made I am awestruck, I keep fooling myself as I practice. I need to polish my handling and of course some practice, but I look forward to the reactions this effect will get Thank you for producing such a top notch gimmick, and a replacement for my beloved but impractical in many cases cig thru card very very very pleased with this effect
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