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Xaerius New user 77 Posts |
That's a great idea, tgaffney, using colors.
In case I wasn't clear in my review, I like this effect and I think it's great, but it's just probably not for the performer who likes his props completely examinable. But like Acar said, don't let the fact that the lists aren't examinable stop you from getting this... As long as you're not the 'silent gag magic type'. I mean come on, it's just 5 bucks. It works in all languages by the way. Nigel |
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Woodfield Special user 756 Posts |
Great for the hobbyist. Not for a pro.
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gdw Inner circle 4884 Posts |
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On 2013-07-05 08:10, Woodfield wrote: I disagree. The pro still needs, and benefits immensely, from casual type magic like this. The pro doesn't just perform during their shows. These types of pieces are fantastic for GETTING shows in the first place. Any who, just downloaded this, haven't watched it yet, but the frame that shows up in the thumbnail tips the basic workings. Obviously there are more things covered in the video, so this is not a review/full critique, but, and this WOULD technically take away the "no fishing" part, but only to the extent of one comment in performance, I think it would benefit from having two, um, predictions if you will, in one list. It would provide a bit more diversity, and allow for a bit more scrutiny, or rather at least let the unsure performer relax a touch. Also, you could have it done with two spectators, with one list, by asking them to each think of a number, but, so they don't think of the same number, ask one to think of an even number, and the other to think of an odd number. BAM, now there's no need for any fishing whatsoever. Any who, I'm actually not familiar with the other versions credited, so I may be repeating what has already been done, but just felt like sharing those thoughts. Hopefully they are useful to some.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one."
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Xaerius New user 77 Posts |
I agree with gdw. This particular effect is the type which will appear to your spectators as a truly impromptu mental miracle, and will help in getting shows.
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Woodfield Special user 756 Posts |
A pro doesn't risk his reputation, especially with a potential booker.
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ricklaxmagic Special user West Bloomfield, Michigan 690 Posts |
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On 2013-07-04 21:12, John C wrote: Hey John, Yeah, have been doing this one for a couple years now. And you might be right about some instant downloads. The thing is, I really don't see a strong correlation between how long somebody has an idea before publishing and how good the idea is. Let me clarify (because this is something I've given a lot of thought to): I've had like 30 or 40 times in my life where I've bought a trick/video/dvd from somebody who used the claim "I've been performing X in real world situations for the past 30 years" (or something to that effect), and then I get it and it sucks. We've all experienced that. Just because somebody performs a magic trick for decades doesn't mean it's a good trick; some people perform bad magic for long periods of time. I've had tricks that I've been working on for five or six years, but I haven't shared them with anyone (let alone released) because I know they're not good, and I can't seem to get them better. And on the other end of the spectrum, I've had tricks that I've released after just 5 or 6 months of tweaking/performing. A lot of really great tricks have been released shortly after their creation. The main factor should always be quality. Sorry...this wasn't at all meant as an attack...your comment just inspired me to clarify all these thoughts I've been having.... Anyway, thanks to all who've purchased this trick. |
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Godzilla Inner circle Tied & Untied Witches on 5316 Posts |
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On 2013-07-04 20:10, WesleyBryan wrote: Thanks,WesleyBryan ! ~G
"If you watch Godzilla backwards, it's about a big ass lizard who helps rebuild a half burnt-down city, then moonwalks back into the ocean"
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smullins Special user United States 678 Posts |
I like the method. It's interesting and I have tested this out a couple times already.
I like the other methods Rick draws from a lot. Mental Yarn for example has been something I've played with for a while but I never really liked the "even/odd" portion of it. Sure, it works well BUT it was something that just didn't sit right with me presentationally. Other types had a little but of pumping (usually only a small amount) and this ones draw back is it cannot be examined. Which will I end with? Hard to say at this moment but at least presentationally I can say I would feel more comfortable with Rick's. Everyone has scribbled a to-do list before and it's not uncommon for someone to search ANYWHERE for paper so even a business card works well here. Why don't you hand it out? "I need this for later." Also this idea, while simple, let's you play easily with the method. You could make this "to-do" list on an iPhone but it looks much better scribbled on paper, post-it or other "hand drawn" ways. You can also force just about any task. Pretty cool idea and just right for the price. |
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Robvs Elite user 470 Posts |
Just bought this effect based on some killer stuff Rick Lax has been putting out at a reasonable "impulse buy" rate.
I agree that the effect is not foolproof. You ARE potentially caught in a hairy situation when your reputation is on the line. I don't have to go far to think of someone in my life that wouldn't allow me to casually slip this list back into my pocket without scrutinizing it. I'd venture to say that the pro has a better chance of pulling this off because a different set of boundaries seems to be established with a pro/client relationship vs. me performing to my wife or dad. My bigger issue is with the silly overstatements in the marketing we're seeing these days. This trick is not just "straightforward mind reading." I assure you. There is no straightforward mind reading going on in this effect. You're a fool if you purchase this effect expecting there to be, but why is this overstatement even there? How about "to the spectator the effect appears to be mind reading?" This is a lot different, as a magician/customer is really trying to evaluate whether or not a routine and method is worth their money, the method should not be lied about. "Real mind reading for five bucks...awesome. I'll buy it." Doesn't seem right to me. This isn't the most extreme case of this type of language stretching the principles of fair marketing, but it's there... "Forget Bill Goldman's routine; he's just fishing. This routine is mind reading." That's essentially what it says. That's not right. |
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ricklaxmagic Special user West Bloomfield, Michigan 690 Posts |
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On 2013-07-07 02:00, Robvs wrote: Sure, I'll agree with you that it's not 'actual' mind reading--that "to the spectator, the effect appears to be mind reading" is a more accurate description. |
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Xaerius New user 77 Posts |
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On 2013-07-07 14:29, ricklaxmagic wrote: Unless real mindreading is possible (if anyone knows of any way to achieve this, let me know!), I guess how it appears to spectators is all that matters! Nigel |
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paTRICKY New user 16 Posts |
I haven't purchased this yet, but the comment regarding actual "mind reading"? C'mon. Are you a spectator or a mentalist/magician? We all know there is a "method" that fools the spectator in all "magic" tricks. If you think anyone can actually read minds, then I would suggest you should remain a spectator (one more person for us to fool). If you want to be a magician or mentalist who amazes others, then keep buying "tricks" with the rest of us and quit thinking you can levitate, read minds, or produce doves out of thin air. It just doesn't happen for real...or does it? Maybe it does. Maybe...
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2013-07-08 22:29, paTRICKY wrote: I get tired of this nonsense myself. I watched a show the other day and...get ready for this...they say we live on an spherical mass that is 4.54 billion years old. The source of energy that sustains life is star and this star will also be what destroys us. It's all part of a "Universe" that contains billions of these stars...and on and on. Oh...all this stuff just floats out there. Right. Pull the other one! |
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Robvs Elite user 470 Posts |
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On 2013-07-08 22:29, paTRICKY wrote: From the ad copy: "Like Daniel Garcia’s iPhone list prediction, To-Do VooDoo is an ingenious update on Bill Goldman and Ned Rutledge's work. With To-Do Voodoo, there’s NO FISHING and no messing with odd/even numbers. Just straightforward mind reading." The point is that exaggerating in advertisements is a slippery slope. Where does one draw the line. I say that it's the moment where you implement dishonesty. The line in question is a bizarre overstatement that is not necessary in the advertisement. The addition of the word "straightforward" makes it an even worse statement. By definition, the word "straightforward" means "honest." Pairing it up against a competitor's effect with a tone that almost discredits the effect- that's just tactless. "Our effect is better because it's straightforward mind reading while the others are just fishing" is the subtext. Telling the consumer that their sneakers will allow them to run faster and jump higher is a lie. IT'S STILL A LIE if the consumer knows that the claim is preposterous. The writer of the ad cannot justify his words by saying "nobody will believe THAT anyway so I can write it." Luke Dancy's "Capture" doesn't end clean. The ad shouldn't say that it does. "A magician should know how to handle a gimmick" is not a justification for an overstatement like "starts and ends clean." This type of advertisement needs to be cleaned up if you ever expect to get what you pay for. I clearly wasn't expecting real mind reading. There's a comprehension issue if you feel as though I'm someone who expected mind reading but feels scammed out of money because I didn't get it. Maybe the line I wrote "You're a fool if you purchase this effect expecting there to be [mind reading]" could clue you in to this. But I do expect truth in advertising, and I'm not sure how that makes me a better spectator than magician. To suggest that I'm easily fooled based on my words... that's just weird. Lies are not justifiable just because they are absurd. |
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Zombie Magic Inner circle I went out for a beer and now have 8733 Posts |
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On 2013-07-09 00:08, Robvs wrote: Actually, there may be some truth to that. I grew up with Keds® sneakers. I would say the "athletic" shoes today could allow me to run faster and jump higher. Unfortunately, I don't have the body to test it. |
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close_up_act Special user Idaho Falls 773 Posts |
I just got this yesterday , "impulse buy" aswell...the method didn't really impress me, I just thought ok another download down the money drain...i woke up this morning and decided to watch it again and made up the exact list on the video... tried it and it works...made up my own list and tried it again later today and another hit... I'm happy I purchased this and love the fact that you can create your own list...i'm planing on doing a "christmas wish list" using this method and a thanksgiving shopping list so I'm all set for the holiday season...
Junior
J Rodriguez
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Incognito Regular user 109 Posts |
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On 2013-07-09 00:15, Zombie Magic wrote: Keds! Ha! PF Flyer's make you run faster and jump higher! |
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ricklaxmagic Special user West Bloomfield, Michigan 690 Posts |
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On 2013-07-09 00:16, close_up_act wrote: Thanks Close_up. Glad to hear the trick's working out for ya! |
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Shadowmoor New user 52 Posts |
This'll work best for me as an impromptu effect. I'll happen to notice the list while putting a bill-change effect back into my wallet, and act irritated that I've forgotten to do some errands.
That, and the verbal misdirection given in the explanation video, will sell this. |
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Robvs Elite user 470 Posts |
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On 2013-07-09 00:15, Zombie Magic wrote: There's so much I love about this post. From the trademark symbol to the self-deprecating comedic interruption. |
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