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sleightofand Regular user London, UK 188 Posts |
Now what I say here isn't gospel, it's just what I advise, others may tell you different.
Now you want to learn card magic do you? I can't blame you, card magic is wonderful! First and foremost that I will say is steer clear from Youtube tuitionals as they can get you into some serious bad habits! So stay away! I would also keep clear of packet tricks for the time being as many involve some sleight of hand skills, but them later on. So, where do you start? Many magicians would point out that the Royal road to card magic book is a classic. It is, don't get mer wrong, but can be a hard read for the beginner, however there is a dvd set available and might be worth having a look at that as covers many lessons for you to master, such as all the basics you need. Also, have a look for any dvds about sleights and handling cards, these are great. Big bllind media have also released some self working card magic dvds which are great, and has some great material on them. No real sleghts to learn but great magic. However, what I would say though is that some on the effects require set ups and may not be practical if you want to walk about showing your mates. So grab yourself Royal road to card magic dvd set first and foremost, as will give you many tools that you need, and grab yourself some self working card magic dvds to get you going also and this will be more than enough to sink your teeth into for the time being. Good luck to you. Andy http://www.andyrussell.webs.com |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
So many, over the decades, have told me that Close-Up Card Magic and The Magic Book started them into REAL, impromptu, card magic. Royal Road, obviously, is an excellent source. HL.
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Athelus New user Aberdeen, Scotland 59 Posts |
All I can give advice on is how I got started myself. A friend loaned me a copy of Royal Road to Card Magic, and I got all excited and went home after work and started to read it. Well yes it is a very good book but the style of writing is very archaic and actually quite off puting. So I struggled along with it for a while then got myself a copy of Card College Volumes 1 & 2, Now the material covered in these 2 is similar (a little more in card college but then it is 2 books so would sort of expect it) and I found it much easier to read. I'm not saying card college is better just for me an easier style of writing.
Once I got my head around the basics of those 2 volumes I was ready for some more wow factor moments and after asking a few questions on these forums and watching some youtube videos of peoples performance styles (note I say performance and not tutorials) I chose Mr Harry Lorayne's The Classic Collection 1 and 2 and since then I haven't bought another book on magic as I've barely scratched the surface of these 2 books. Sure the books are quite pricey but as the old saying goes, you get what you pay for, and for me I'd personally say the price was more than justified. Even if you only pick up 1 or 2 tricks from each (I can't see why you'd stop there though) the price is more than justified. He has a very easy to read style of teaching that makes it a pleasure to just sit and read the books, even without a pack of cards on hand. Where to go after that I can't comment on myself as I haven't reached a point where I feel a need to learn more as I'm content learning and practicing from what I already have. So you'll have to decide upon that yourself. So a brief recap, what I recommend is 1 or 2 Basics books (mine were Royal Road and Card College) always nice to have an alternate look at the same principle. Then a book or two from a performer you enjoy watching yourself (in my case Harry Lorayne). If you enjoy the performers work you'll be more willing to sit and study their works and practice them. So I hope that helped somewhat ~Stewart
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
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dman11 Inner circle USA 1067 Posts |
I'm still a beginner at 3 years doing magic. when I started I took a lot of advise I saw online to get Royal Road and also Loraynes
Magic Book. The Magic Book was clearly better for me as a complete beginner. I put down royal Road quickly once I started reading Magic Book and went back to it later. I also started with Card College at this point which I also liked better than Royal Road but for those that don't know, its much more expensive. |
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neemdog Loyal user 231 Posts |
I also have found (and am still finding) the Card College series to be an extremely well organized course in card magic. It is expensive, but the entire series of books ends up at about $200 (40ish each), which, considering the amount of information inside, is an incredible price.
Back when I was starting I received the Penguin Magic DVD Born to Perform Card Magic with Oz Pearlman, and that really helped me get started, especially with a few good tricks that I still use daily. |
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jcrabtree2007 Special user 627 Posts |
ROYAL ROAD TO CARD MAGIC.
Born to Perform is a good dvd, teaches you some the basics and Oz is a great teacher. Daryl's Ambitious Card DVD- I've gotten so much mileage out of that one routine. Its still my go-to routine when someone tosses me a deck of cards. Fairly easy to learn. You will get tons of mileage out of that basic move. 3 card monte- DAryl or school for scoundrels. you'll get a ton of mileage out of that routine as well. |
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motown Inner circle Atlanta by way of Detroit 6127 Posts |
John Carney or Harry Lorayne.
"If you ever write anything about me after I'm gone, I will come back and haunt you."
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frankvomit Elite user 485 Posts |
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On 2013-07-06 00:37, motown wrote: Ditto! |
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sleightofand Regular user London, UK 188 Posts |
Never really checked out much of Harry's magic, probably will ave to now. Yes, I heard card colledge is great. Born to perform by oz is a good dvd with some very powerful card magic on it, that I do when I do some gigs.
There are so many books and dvds out there, have fun learning from them and getting the basics down, and pick out the tricks that you loved seeing, you don't have to learn every trick that you see which can be a common mistake for some. Regards Andy http://www.andyrussell.webs.com |
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Brannon New user Austin, TX 29 Posts |
I've started Royal Road about 10 different times and was never successfully able to get all the way through it until I bought the DVD's by R. P. Wilson that went with it. If you don't learn well from books alone, that is definitely a place to start. I found that the DVD along with reading the book was a great choice for me. Also, Card College is an awesome book if you have the patience to sit down and read it. But I agree with you Andy. Keep up the good posts!
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DWRackley Inner circle Chattanooga, TN 1909 Posts |
The question is confusing. Where is the best place to learn card magic? Obviously at Panera, while sipping coffee.
...what if I could read your mind?
Chattanooga's Premier Mentalist Donatelli and Company at ChattanoogaPerformers.com also on FaceBook |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Andy: Something like this simply bothers me, or revs up my curiosity. Simple question...and no disrespect meant - but how in the world can you give advice, or think it's good advice, or think you know enough about the subject of card magic, re: learning card magic if - to quote you - you "Never really checked out much of Harry's magic, probably will have to now." As I said, just curious. HL.
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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DWRackley Inner circle Chattanooga, TN 1909 Posts |
I do have some of Harry’s books, and what I have is killer. It is not cheap, but truly you get what you pay for. Recommend!
Also, if you can find them, John Scarne wrote many books on dice, gambling, cards and magic. Scarne on Cards and Scarne on Card Tricks, as well as Scarne’s Magic Tricks were some of the first books I owned. I also have Royal Road but, like Brannon, have never made it through. At some point I just start playing with the cards and never make it back to the book. (I don’t like DVDs; too much pausing and rewinding!)
...what if I could read your mind?
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edshern Special user 957 Posts |
If you can afford it, go to a pro and get lessons, On line or in person.
I've learned there is so much more to magic than 'the move' or 'the sleight' The sleights may be explained in the book, but the ART is taught by a teacher. If you are serious about learning card magic, it will be the best money you will ever spend. Ed |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
Oh please!!!!
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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Albatros Regular user Germany 132 Posts |
I usually do it sitting in my living room...
...sorry, I couldn't resist this cheap joke But to keep my post on topic: Like so many here my first buy was the Royal Road. While I call it a good book I just never felt home while reading it. Never mind the language, but somehow it did not match my style. My next buy was indeed Harry Lorayne's Classic Collection Volume I, and I can certainly recommend it. There is something for everybody within its pages! And, maybe a big bonus for those of us just getting started: Unlike Royal Road the patter Harry gives can be used right away without the need to re-do it all (again, this might be just a question of my personal style...). don't get me wrong: I clearly see the benefits of evaluating your own patter and presentation, but again, you asked where to get started and I found it difficult to work out a decent patter right away. Then its a matter of preference where you go next. Rather sleight-intensive or self working? There are countless good books once you got those cards in hand. All the best, Sven ^^
"Palming cards... Like sex, it can be learned by almost anybody,but doing it well requires some native talent and assiduous practice." (John Scarne)
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Curtis Alexander New user 74 Posts |
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On 2013-07-05 03:56, sleightofand wrote: I disagree with this. YouTube can be a great resource, but you do need to take things on YouTube with a grain of salt. It's kind of like using Wikipedia for a book report; you'd be crazy not to use it but you shouldn't rely on it solely. YouTube is great for learning some basic things, but for the more advanced stuff I would look to books and DVDs. |
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Magic Pierre Loyal user 212 Posts |
Ah!, the dread Youtube tutorial subject once again rears its ugly head! The problem with the Youtube tutorials is that, for those of us who are beginners, it's nearly impossible to tell which are any good, and which are really bad, and you risk picking up really bad habits and having to spend loads of time, really, waaaay more than you spent acquiring them, getting rid of them.
If you want to go the video instruction route, really, go ask someone who has been around awhile and knows what they are talking about, to recommend the good stuff to you. Then, when you have some ability to discriminate, go on you tube if you want. |
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Harry Lorayne 1926 - 2023 New York City 8558 Posts |
If you go to http://www.youtube.com/harrylorayneonvideo you will see some card stuff that might be interesting to you. All impromptu stuff, incidentally. Enjoy!
[email]harrylorayne@earthlink.net[/email]
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Magic Pierre Loyal user 212 Posts |
Yeah, and Harry's stuff is really good.
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