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The top hustler when being chased around the casino gives them the brush by smoothly hiding under the card hide?
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On 2013-07-20 20:42, tommy wrote:
The top hustler when being chased around the casino gives them the brush by smoothly hiding under the card hide?

You sure have a lot of creative ways to say you don't know what the brush means among hustlers and what it entails.

Interesting, but just come out and say, "I don't know." Smile
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Come in and get me, you, you, you dirty card benders!

Wait! The brush is the clandestine, momentary contact between two top hustlers who are passing information, documents, or equipment smoothly at the magic castle?
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Just a moment. You are asking me if I know what this clinical jargon is, used by you to help you cloak your wickedness in the language of decency in order to make the unspeakable speakable. and want me to answer in plain language! Isn't that like Hitler asking someone if they know what “the final solution.” is and demanding they speak plainly and use no verbal subterfuge or euphemism?

It seems the top hustlers hypocrisy knows no bounds.

:)
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As an action one can brush the baize to crimp a card and I have heard the jargon used by magicians for a discard switch and so on as mentioned above, but I can give no better definition of “brush” than by saying that it means shrubbery to me.
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@tommy: After all your diverse explanations about what the brush could mean, now I am so confused even I don't know what the term "the brush" means.

I feel like a porcupine with all the "explanation" arrows you have shot at me. It will take hours to pull them all out. Smile
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I was just guessing what you mean by the brush, as I don't know what it is to you, and now you brush me off with, you don't know! Smile
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Finally, I have pulled out the last tommy arrow, no longer look like a porcupine and can now post again. Smile

"The brush" actually has two distinct and different meanings among professional hustlers. In fact, it may be somewhat international in application and use.

Actually I have already indirectly divulged to the members one of the meanings I am referring to but did not do so in capital letters - so possibly no one picked up on it or perhaps if they did, don't really care.

If we get some reasonable participation from a few of the members on this subject, I will go further with the discussion. If not, I won't bother.
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I would assume it would communicate between someone else in the know that you had a few secrets "up your sleeve", while at the same time pleading ignorance to those around you. What actually comes to mind though is the Romans, who used to shake hands and at the same time grab the forearm of the person they were shaking hands with to make sure there wasn't a dagger hidden under the sleeve.

That's all I got.

The only other explanation for the phrase The Brush has to do with a psuedo-gambling demo.
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On 2013-07-20 01:41, RJH wrote:
Danm! I'm not able to view the video... Could you put it in Youtube or somewhere else, because my computer sucks...

RJH


I didn't go into the trouble to code a website for posting my material on youtube Smile. What does not work, exactly?
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I have no idea what you are talking about, [brushes sleeve].

Regardless of what Cag's definitions are, brushing off one's clothes, when answering a question, has historically been interpreted as a sign of dissembling, or lying.
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Instead of arguing for the sake of arguing, you better comment my video!

Do you understand what I'm really doing?

(HINT: it's Stevens' + something else...)
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It is hard to talk about the "+ something else" without exposing.

Do you understand what I'm really doing?

Yes and No!

I think I understand but what I think may not be correct. I think my best answer would be, no I don't know what you are doing.

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As far as the word “brush” one of the definitions in the parlance of the hustler it’s a mucking move. It is shown on the much maligned (at least on this board) Darwin Ortiz book Gambling Scams page 28.
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On 2013-07-19 18:02, tommy wrote:
Cag and play his Steinway piano at the same time without missing a beat, before he learnt to walk, on water. There is a special way of doing it smoothly, only known to top hustlers. if you ask Cag to show you the special way, then you will notice him brush his sleeve slightly and if you were Tony Giorgio then you would know what that means.

Could it be that tommy was being sarcastic when he wrote the above. No, no. That is not possible, at least not with tommy, but that is the reason I asked him what the brush was. Smile

Since we have had four people who have the courage to venture what they thought “the brush” was, I will explain what it means to a hustler although I am surprised that some of our more “knowledgeable” members on this BB have said nothing. So with great hubris, monstrous ego and from the point of view of a poseur (not my words guys), here is what the brush is in “hustler-land.”

The “brush” means in a broad sense to brush someone away, not to “brush them off” as in U.S. slang terminology.

Among hustlers, the brush has two meanings. The first meaning, which is what I referred to in the post in question about Giorgio and his question to me about hand mucking, is to slightly and unobtrusively brush your sleeve, your person, the table top or any object. You can make a slight brushing motion on almost anything. What it means to pro hustlers is to back off, stop what you are doing or go no further. It is almost internationally understood this way in the hustling community.

So in the post when Giorgio asked me if I knew any muck moves and I slightly brushed my sleeve, he stopped out of courtesy because he knew what the sign meant and no one else at the table would pick up on it, including Vernon. What is meant very nicely was for him to back off questioning me further about mucking because I was not going to tip any top casino muck moves to a table full of magicians (who were babbling about everything they knew at the time - which really blew my mind).

The second meaning is a move that can be used in many games when one has a partner sitting next to him. The move can be done in several ways (the mechanics of which I will not describe), but basically it is when the hustler, using his card holding hand, pushes his partner’s hand slightly away from him on the table (ostensibly to get it out of the way), or lightly travels over his partner’s hand as he tosses his cards into the discards. The purpose is to exchange one card from one hand to the other (rarely exchanging multiple cards). If used infrequently at the right time (in a big pot for example) it is a strong move. Of course, the timing, shade, psychological twists employed and so forth are what make it VERY viable at the right time and not the move itself, although the move can be done VERY nicely.

As in everything else, the basic move is just that, the basics, and accounts for about 10%-20% of successfully applying the ploy.

In fact, top hustling is not usually done the way most magicians and hobbyists learn. Teaming up, playing extremely well, signing up hands, setting up steer games and MAYBE occasionally using a move, like a cooler at the right time, will get all the money and it looks much better and is more deceptive than dealing bottoms, hopping the cut, second dealing and so on. If fact, good hustling for the most part looks just like a square game.
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On 2013-07-22 14:47, Cagliostro wrote:
Teaming up, playing extremely well, signing up hands, setting up steer games and MAYBE occasionally using a move, like a cooler at the right time, will get all the money and it looks much better and is more deceptive than dealing bottoms, hopping the cut, second dealing and so on. If fact, good hustling for the most part looks just like a square game.


Looks like what I wrote in the other thread Smile.
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On 2013-07-22 14:47, Cagliostro wrote:
Teaming up, playing extremely well, signing up hands, setting up steer games and MAYBE occasionally using a move, like a cooler at the right time, will get all the money and it looks much better and is more deceptive than dealing bottoms, hopping the cut, second dealing and so on. If fact, good hustling for the most part looks just like a square game.


Looks like what I wrote in the other thread Smile.

Do you mean to say that I am plagiarizing your perceptive observations and pretending they are mine?

I guess I just don't have any original thoughts, do I???!!! Smile
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Er, peace. It simply means we fully agree on some things... Which is nice, no?
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On 2013-07-22 19:36, AMcD wrote:
Er, peace. It simply means we fully agree on some things... Which is nice, no?

Ahhh. I agree. Great minds think alike. Smile
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On 2013-07-20 17:52, tommy wrote:
? Surely not the old hustling land toss away switchamoroony brush. No I don't know that brush.


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On 2013-07-21 05:17, tommy wrote:
As an action one can brush the baize to crimp a card and I have heard the jargon used by magicians for a discard switch and so on as mentioned above, but I can give no better definition of “brush” than by saying that it means shrubbery to me.


discard switch
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