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Any idea which envelope concept was utilized here?
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On 2013-08-06 21:29, saysold1 wrote:
Any idea which envelope concept was utilized here?


Not sure what you mean... It's just an envelope.
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Any idea which envelope concept was utilized here?


Not sure what you mean... It's just an envelope.


No it wasn't. The envelope was shown empty at first. I don't want to talk too much about method but I'm nearly sure it was just a flap "two-way out" type of homemade job, similar to a change bag.
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On 2013-08-06 21:29, saysold1 wrote:
Any idea which envelope concept was utilized here?


Not sure what you mean... It's just an envelope.


No it wasn't. The envelope was shown empty at first. I don't want to talk too much about method but I'm nearly sure it was just a flap "two-way out" type of homemade job, similar to a change bag.


Exactly - I assume it is similar to a 2 way force bag but using an envelope that seals the opposite side. I use and love Carlyle's bags, but have never played with an envelope before. I don't think it would be too hard to create.
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On 2013-08-06 21:29, saysold1 wrote:
Any idea which envelope concept was utilized here?


Not sure what you mean... It's just an envelope.


No it wasn't. The envelope was shown empty at first. I don't want to talk too much about method but I'm nearly sure it was just a flap "two-way out" type of homemade job, similar to a change bag.



Wow! Sorry! Didn't even notice that!!
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The combo of book test + reappearing page (envelope) has been performed in the past on TV, I don't know if in the US though (in Italy performed maaaaaaany years ago by Alexander)
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You should find the answer in Ted Lesley's fabulous book or DVD's
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I was reading some old posts on Pegasus page and since I just got "Booked" last week (and LOVE it) - I am now thinking that I would rather present this as a mentlism influence piece whereby the appearing page was never there (in the book) in the first place. No need for a special envelope - the torn page could be held by a spectator from the beginning in a regular envelope.

These ideas were batted around some time ago I realize but I think this book test could be even better as less a magic trick... and more a demo of influence.
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I like the mentalism possibilities as well.
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Might revisit using Dan Harlan's Stash for the page reveal, where the spectator has been holding it from the get go.....
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So much information about how he did it and what kind of gimmick he uses!
Man! It's a shame!
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Yeah, seems people like to boast they're "in the know". Remember when this is the type of thing everyone tried to protect?
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So much information about how he did it and what kind of gimmick he uses!
Man! It's a shame!



Magicians helping magicians...... I mean telling everyone how and where to look.



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Nothing was ever disclosed about the nature of the actual gimmick - yawn, whine, yawn...

What was disclosed at the beginning by many others was the name of the effect.

This was also stated on two other independent threads - another here and in MS.

I asked about the envelope used - which is not the main gimmick and not part of Booked either.

Such a shame tsk tsk.

Anyone who wants the real lowdown should buy the effect. Same as always.
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If anybody wants to report my Ted Lesley post and have it removed, have at it. I misunderstood the magicians helping magicians part. I actually held back the actual name of the gimmick or where to find it in the book so one would have to do their own research, but it is what it is I guess. Wouldn't actually call that boasting that I was in the know. My bad for trying to help.
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Major overreaction. Want cheese with that?
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