Hi fellows magicians, A while ago I saw Gastón Quieto doing a flourishy one handed double lift, he just riffled two cards as one with his thumb and in an action this two cards flipped over in the air, landing down face up in the deck.

I actually don't know the name of this sleight, and I'm trying to get it down, but I just cant do it right, I was hopping you guys could possibly give me some advices and tips for this move.

Thanks in advance
MAGO68

Here's my tip: Only do it if you're performing for magicians. No one else will care.

Lee Asher does one very similar (maybe the same). It's on his Asher Twist video I believe. Don't think he teaches it but you may pick it up via slow-mo. It looks like it will take many, many hours of practice.

Sounds live a diving-board double to me.

Roberto Giobbi does something like that as well...I think he mentions it in one of the card college books but doesn't explain it.

Then again, I could be confusing him with someone else.

So....i guess this wasnt as helpful as id hoped.

its late. give me a break.

It sounds like a mix of a couple of moves:
1) The Snap Double - which is a DL get ready
2) The Simple Switch - in which a card flips from hand to hand.

If you know the principles of these moves you could probably work out a similar move to the one you described with a little bit of practise.

If you don't PM me and I'll refer you to their respective sources.

-MB

Why would you want to turn 2 cards over like that? That is not a NATURAL or STANDARD way of turning 2 cards over. That sets bells and whistles off that something is going on. Not for me, no thanks!

It seems to me that many magicians have to do a super duper, triple gainer with a 1 1/2 twist to satisfy themselves. Where's the MAGIC in this? That doesn't FOOL the spectator's. Now you've become a juggler with a deck of cards. If you want to be a juggler, then go for it, but if you are trying to fool people . . . degree of difficulty doesn't fool them.

Finally, have you ever noticed this in an ambitous card routine? The magician will turn over his double card in a certain manner. After placing it in the middle, and turning over the top "single" card, that the single is handled in a different manner than the double? This is a tell tale sign too that something's going on. They may not know exactly what's going on, but they notice the difference.

Just little thoughts that DO make a difference!

I do agree with you to an extent, but one part of your argument is, from my experience, wrong. This type of discussion can draw into further analysis of what style you are going for (smooth, flashy, slick, messy etc...)

To say that degree of difficulty does not fool an audience is not wholly true. Of course the degree of difficulty, or should I say flashyness, cannot fool an audience because they are not supposed to know the mechanics of a card move to appreciate it. However, the difficulty and flashyness of a move CAN indirectly fool audiences becuase it leaves them with an attitude that if card flipped over 10 times and landed on the deck square and face up, theres no way that it could have been two cards. In this case, the point can be made, but one would be hard pressed to find numerous examples of it.

In looking at Lennart Green's style, a very unique style which he has much success with, it can be looked at as being the ultimate flashy/difficulty in the sense that it looks like he's dropping cards left and right and being sloppy, but he knows exactly how many cards are being dropped, and exactly where they are going to land, and even with what angular momentum and speed (just kidding.) Point being, again, the audience is relaxed by the fact that they are saying, "this guy's so all over the place, there's no way he's doing anything fishy."

Just my thoughts

Alpen

I believe this is Looy Simonoff (sp?) move called flippant. Though used as a color change it can be applied to a double lift.


Eric

Hi guys, thanks for all the responses, let me say that I have just found the Gastón Quieto's video and I saw it in Slo-mo and now I'm getting it down.

I was wondering about this Dl becouse I use a flashy style and I have an Merlin Tip Over Adition varition that leaves me with half a deck in my left hand, and half deck in my right hand with two cards face up on top of it, the one that I was showing and the other one I added beneath it, so I needed a way to turn over this two cards as one, flipping it in the air, to make this move fluent and flashy.

I Won't use it as a regular DL as my Standard DL or whatever, I just needed for that.

Well thanks again for all the responses.

MAGO68

Ah, I understand then. Having your other hand preoccupied holding cards provides perfect motivation for turning it over with one hand. Now that sounds good.

Hmm...

It sounds like it might be the Domico double from Buckley's Card Control. Since you say they snap off the thumb, that's the impression I got.