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Sure seems reasonable to me Al.
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On 2013-08-13 14:58, Marlin1894 wrote:
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On 2013-08-13 14:55, MobilityBundle wrote:
Then there are private messages, which (hopefully) are as private as any other password-secured site.


Don't bank on it.

You might have misread what I said. I'm saying that, insofar as private messages on this site are secured by a username/password, for that reason they're as secure as any other strictly username/password authenticated site. But I'm not suggesting that such an authentication scheme is secure (or insecure.)

Unless you're suggesting that this site is vulnerable to attacks that generic username/password authenticated sites aren't?
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General, you have my point exactly. What I was trying to relate was that there is nowhere in the world that I know of where someone like me could build a successful business. I have friends trying to open a business in the UK and they have been waiting months just to get approved for a business banking account. If you are leaving because the taxes too high, you might find that the opportunities that are available to you are much less as well.
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On 2013-08-13 15:44, MobilityBundle wrote:

You might have misread what I said. I'm saying that, insofar as private messages on this site are secured by a username/password, for that reason they're as secure as any other strictly username/password authenticated site. But I'm not suggesting that such an authentication scheme is secure (or insecure.)

Unless you're suggesting that this site is vulnerable to attacks that generic username/password authenticated sites aren't?


No, no. I wasn't suggesting that. Maybe I did misunderstand what you were saying.
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On 2013-08-13 09:36, Slide wrote:
"Truly a wonder that our "fair share" leaves us anything at all to spend or save..."

Well, good luck finding a place with lower taxes.

Never understood this tax nonsense. I pay as much or more taxes than most people. I look at it as the cost of doing business. I was a theater major in college, until my late 30's made my living as an artist. After that I became an entrepreneur. I really don't know of another country that allows one to so easily set up business for yourself and have as much potential income as you want, if you are ambitious.

I now have a beautiful home overlooking the hudson on a piece of land that is absolute paradise, I run my own company from my house, I make a very good 6 figure salary, and I have close to a million bucks in the bank as savings. Only in America. So, yeah, I pay my taxes at the top level and my real estate taxes are about $19k a year. But that is what it costs to have the opportunity I've had.

Rent on Madison Ave ave is always going to be higher than in the ghetto. Location, location, location.

there is nothing that prevents you from making as much money as you want and to have the life you want to lead, to change courses mid stream, without degrees, status, or family influence in America. Or as little.

But complaining about taxes is a waste of time in my opinion: I'm happy to pay my taxes, which are actually pretty low compared to the rest of the world. I gladly pay taxes for the opportunity it affords me.

In America, if you want to make more money, there is really nothing stopping you. If you think you are paying too much in taxes, why not go out and figure out a way to make more money.


You're putting us on, right?
There certainly are some industries which are much easier to enter than others, but this kind of thinking as an overall view of what it's like to be entrepreneurial in america is a joke:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillip......the-u-s/
http://www.heritage.org/index/ranking


What exactly is the site telling us? Is it saying it is easier to get money and start a business in those countries? I am missing your point. I just do not see any correlation to the info presented here and the ease of starting a business.

As far as the other site goes it brings up nothing.
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Aces, do you really not see what economic freedom and tax burden have to do with being able to make a living, in particular, being entrepreneurial?
It's amazing, people will criticize you for "biting the hand that feeds you," while they're busy praising the hand that beats them.

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On 2013-08-13 14:34, Slide wrote:
"Sounds a bit like a get rich quick deal to me"

except I don't profit from getting you "rich quick", (well, I do hope you join my site when it is created but other than the $20 a month. I don't sell videos, books, I don't do lectures or anything like that. )


i.e. other than the ten grand a month.
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But he makes millions. He has no need for a paultry 10 grand a month.

The part I don't understand is that if you want to be taken SO seriously why be a pseudonym? Why not let the world know of you and your success? Why not show everyone who you are and show everyone what they can work up to?

I just don't understand why you need to be unknown.
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He's given his name before if you are really interested to look back . I have to say I'm really surprised that there is so much skepticism about an idea that's being offered freely. You can't find a way to adapt it to make it work for you?
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He's given his name before if you are really interested to look back . I have to say I'm really surprised that there is so much skepticism about an idea that's being offered freely. You can't find a way to adapt it to make it work for you?


I think it's a fine business model. I just thought the "I don't profit" line was funny.
"Torture doesn't work" lol
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On 2013-08-13 15:46, Slide wrote:
General, you have my point exactly. What I was trying to relate was that there is nowhere in the world that I know of where someone like me could build a successful business.


I know that cell phone entrepreneurs have done very well in Somalia. Smile
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I am pretty sure the richest man in the world is a Mexican cell phone company owner.

Also off shore casinos do pretty darn good.
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On 2013-08-13 19:25, Dannydoyle wrote:
I am pretty sure the richest man in the world is a Mexican cell phone company owner.

Also off shore casinos do pretty darn good.


You shouldn't be so sure of yourself because Bill Gates just took the top spot back again and bumped Carlos Slim: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erincarlyle/......ps-slim/
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So the words "pretty sure" didn't mean anything to you did they?

So he has been the richest man in the world for the past 4 years, and is now bumped down to the second spot... and this makes my point less valid how?

Why does everyone here constantly want to play GOTCHA?
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On 2013-08-13 19:38, Dannydoyle wrote:
So the words "pretty sure" didn't mean anything to you did they?

So he has been the richest man in the world for the past 4 years, and is now bumped down to the second spot... and this makes my point less valid how?

Why does everyone here constantly want to play GOTCHA?


GOTCHA Danny! LOL!
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Yup taxes are high and there are many advantages of citizenship, so if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

There are millions upon millions of hard working foreigners just dieing to have their chance at the American dream, so if you think taxes are too high for you here please leave now we won't miss you.
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I am afraid I have no idea what that is supposed to mean.
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Read the title of the thread.
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I did. I am still lost. I am not that bright remember.
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On 2013-08-13 19:55, Al Angello wrote:
if you think taxes are too high for you here please vote for people who will lower them


Fixed your post for you, Al!
"Torture doesn't work" lol
Guess they forgot to tell Bill Buckley.

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