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Gary Kosnitzky
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I just wanted to let those who have been waiting.
The authentic traditional version of the Hindu Cups and Balls is coming back!
I am finishing up my work on Cheppum Panthum and will
be releasing the Hindu cups and book with all the real work very soon.
Keep your eye on the Magic Café for the release date.

Please PM me your name and email address if you are interested.
This information will be kept strictly confidential.
There is no obligation.

Thank you Steve Brooks, Donnie Buckley and Bill Palmer for all your support.

Gary
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Bill Palmer
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WOW!!!! Excellent!!! Great News!!! Callooh, callay, I chortle in my joy!
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For those who have never heard of any of this before here is the introduction to my book.

CHEPPUM PANTHUM
A Treatise on the science and art of performing the
HINDU CUPS and BALLS
in the ancient traditional style

INTRODUCTION

Magicians are, of course, by nature and necessity secretive and private. The
ancient tradition of the mantragupta vow preserves and binds the group together.
The way a trick works is a commodity, and the more people who know how it is
done, the less its cash value. Secrets are the currency of intimacy and equality;
secrecy is power, and it binds magicians together to form the confederacy of
magic. …Lee Siegel – Net of Magic: Wonders and Deceptions in India

The ancient traditional style of performing the Hindu Cups and Balls also known in India as “Cheppum Panthum” [cup and balls] has been one of the best kept secrets in magic. This is the first time it is being accurately and thoroughly explained in print.
For hundreds if not thousands of years the ancient traditional methods used in performing the Hindu Cups and Balls have been taught only through the oral tradition, handed down from mentor to disciple and conserved under a strict vow of secrecy.
Because of this stringent adherence to secrecy and the lack of any written records the traditional style of performing the Hindu Cups and Balls has languished in obscurity.
It truly has become a dying art.

My aim in writing this primer is to teach the basic knowledge needed to perform the Hindu Cups and Balls in its traditional form so as to revive this beautiful ancient magic art form. There are many stunning moves only used in the Hindu Cups and Balls and nowhere else. In this book I have written extremely detailed explanations of all the fundamental moves accompanied by many photos. I will teach you everything you will need to know concerning how to perform the Hindu Cups and Balls, expertly in its traditional form.

I explain in great detail how to handle the cups, the balls, the wand, how to sit, what clothing to wear and also the additional accessories you will use. I also instruct you on how to create the perfect ball; this is an art in itself. In addition I have included a basic routine containing all the fundamental sleights and all the original patter in its classical Southern Dravidian language, accompanied with pronunciation spelling to make the words easy for you to say. I also include their translation in English so you understand what you are actually saying.

It is now going to be your turn to master, guard and conserve this ancient tradition. Remember “the way a trick works is a commodity” so please keep this knowledge as secretive as possible. Most of all have fun.

Gary Kosnitzky
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Gary,

I did not realize you were such a well-informed linguist! I hope you include an audio representation of the spoken material. I've never heard anyone outside of a native-speaker toss off the retroflex consonants with anything vaguely resembling the sounds as they are meant to be made. I fear that actually trying to emulate the original spoken phrasing, while doing the routine could add a tremendous level of difficulty to performing the routine well.

I have no idea who your contact is from India. I'm glad someone in this part of the world is documenting the routine. I, for one, seriously doubt there is a single, correct, way to perform this piece of magic. With any oral-tradition-based art form, you will find many, many versions.

Which of the Southern languages are you putting in the book? For a street performer to have the widest audience, Tamil, having the largest number of speakers would be the logical choice. If you're documenting the routine in another language, why? If you are documenting it in Tamil, that would be wonderful, since that pronunciation could easily be codified/spoken by a large number of Indian people who've immigrated to the U.S.

If the only form the routine was passed down, is verbally, how can you deduce the age of the information?

KG
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Kent,
I am not a well informed linguist.
I am a cunning linguist.
Rediscover a lost art.

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Mwaaa, ha ha ha.
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When can we expect this Book ?

M123
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Wonderful! Can't wait to see it, Gary!
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I hope the chapter on additional accessories is very detailed and researched on.The accessories are not less mystic than the trick itself.There are different versions of the hindu cups and balls.In my place Bede(a gypsey tribe who live in boats) do/used to do hindu cups.I heard so many things about their routine but most of them stopped doing magic now and are busy with snake charming and medicine selling.Probably some old masters are still alive and I really hope I meet one of them someday and experience their acts.Their version tells a story about marriage,birth,love ....and produce a lot of stuff including the bird throughout the routine.

CHEPPUM PANTHUM is probably the south indian name.In my place they call it "guti batir khela".
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I go into detail about everything, leaving no stone unturned.
I actually wrote this book so that if you have never done any magic before you can learn this.

I also discuss the pseudo-mystical elements connected to the Hindu Cups and Balls.
“As the wandering holy man seemed to be a magician, so the wandering magician seemed to be a holy man”.
(Net of Magic: Wonders and Deceptions in India- Lee Siegel)

"Cheppum Panthum” [cup and balls],is considered truly indigenous to Kerala, India. Even world famous magicians are amazed by this technique, especially since they require only very simple equipment, create amazing wonder and are pure fun. It basically requires extreme dexterity with hands (Kayyothukkam) and quickness.(1)


1 Njayath Balan, PO: Mulayankavu, Kulukkallur - 679 337 - on "Prof Vaazhakunnam"


My mission is to try and conserve this particular version of the Hindu Cups and Balls in its original form.
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Gary:

It goes without saying that I am truly excited that this work will finally be released to the world of magic. Please be sure to keep me in the loop on this.

I admire the devotion you have given to this wonderful piece of magic.

Bill
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My Chickasaw name is "Throws Money at Cups."

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Very good to hear Gary.
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Great news! Smile
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Interesting to have yet another angle to look at the Hindu Cups.

Congratulations for having completed your work
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I, also am elated you're doing this, Gary! This is one of my favorite effects, and I WOULD like to know how to do it traditionally. Bravo! Smile

Doug
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On 2013-08-23 17:29, Dougini wrote:
I, also am elated you're doing this, Gary! This is one of my favorite effects, and I WOULD like to know how to do it traditionally. Bravo! Smile

Doug


I agree with Doug. AND, this looks fascinating! I've always wondered about the particulars of this version!
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I'd love to get a copy of this book, but Gary's website is down and he's not responding to PM's Anyone have any comments? I'd buy a used copy if one is available.
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I understand that Gary passed away early in 2016.

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Very sad. Such a talented performer of such an ancient craft.
Here is another post that was started: http://www.themagiccafe.com/forums/viewt......tart=0#1
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