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John C, I saw the ad but insight says its not easy so wanted to see if someone who owns it could help out.
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Has anyone gotten this yet?
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Waiting for reviews myself.
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On 2013-09-05 18:46, samdan wrote:
John C, I saw the ad but insight says its not easy so wanted to see if someone who owns it could help out.


Insight is referencing a previous post concerning coin rolling.
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Just picked this up at the local brick and mortar and opened it up. Not what I expected and I must admit that my Initial reaction is perhaps a bit disappointed.

Keep in mind that I have not set it up, practiced or performed it yet. Just my initial reaction as I opened the box.

I have to say though,and I wonder if others will feel the same way but in Martin's original post (and descriptions on other sites,) the ad copy mentions something that while technically true if taken literally as to the exact definition of the thing mentioned, is not really the case (in my opinion) in terms of the core principle at play here.

Again, the ad copy in question is technically true so maybe it's just me and Im being overly sensitive and should just appreciate the effect for what it is. Anyway, apologies for keeping it vague but I am curious if others who get this will know what I am talking about and feel the same way.

At the end of the day, what I'm being vague about above is probably the reason for my initial disappointment. The effect is super cool so Im sure I'll get over it as I start to play around with it.

In the meantime, the DVD is short and sweet. No long drawn explanations which I like. The set up, though I haven't done it yet, seems simple enough. And it is the type of thing you can have on you in your pocket and quickly get it going.

$50 seems a bit high but, whatever, I suppose one can make that claim about many great pieces of magic.

That's it for now. I'm going to play around with it later and go from there.
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Interested to see how you progress this Pendleton.

What were you dissapointed with?

Is the description inaccurate?
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On 2013-08-27 19:04, Martín Pacheco wrote:


No threads -No Skill required - It´s new principle - Easy to do

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Intentionally misleading advertising isn't a new principle.
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On 2013-09-06 22:10, PendletonThe3rd wrote:

I have to say though,and I wonder if others will feel the same way but in Martin's original post (and descriptions on other sites,) the ad copy mentions something that while technically true if taken literally as to the exact definition of the thing mentioned, is not really the case (in my opinion) in terms of the core principle at play here.

Again, the ad copy in question is technically true so maybe it's just me and Im being overly sensitive and should just appreciate the effect for what it is. Anyway, apologies for keeping it vague but I am curious if others who get this will know what I am talking about and feel the same way.



I don't have this but as soon as I saw the no TT qualifier and then watched the trailer, I rolled my eyes.

It doesn't use your thumb so there's no TT. Smile Smile
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The ad is correctly:

No tt - NO FALSE FINGERS
No magnets.
No threads.
Check it out!
No skill required
New Principle - Easy to Do

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Martin
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Intentionally misleading advertising isn't a new principle.
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Ain't that the truth?
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Hi Friend

I want to repeat:

That ad is truth NO FALSE FINGER no TT , No magnet - It´s a new principle - No threads. !!!

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On 2013-09-07 06:50, Martín Pacheco wrote:
The ad is correctly:

No tt - NO FALSE FINGERS
No magnets.
No threads.
Check it out!
No skill required
New Principle - Easy to Do

Thanks

Martin


Martin,

I respectfully disagree with one of the claims made in the above. And am surprised that you continue to assert it boldly. Again, if taken completely literally, then fine, you are correct. But the core principle in Frye's Chips is basically the same. And more importantly, the exposure is pretty much identical.

Again, let's see if others who have this will agree with me. If so, hopefully you'll adjust the ad accordingly.

In the meantime, I've played around with this and do enjoy it for what it is is. Would I have purchased it had the ad been a bit less open to interpretation on one of the points? Probably not. Am I glad I did? Well...I am not unhappy with it....
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1 thru 6 which one is a bold misleading statement? Leave at the number.
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John-In fairness, I'm being vague on purpose so as not to expose. But indeed, I am questioning one of those 6 claims. Maybe it's just me....maybe it's not. Hopefully others will start weighing in on this.

Here's the thing, if I had to market this product, I would not have made one of those six claims. I would have worded it differently so a consumers expectation would have been in check. When expectations are managed properly, usually a consumer is pleased. When they are not, this leads to disappointment.

This is what I believe happened here. Had the copy been worded differently, I believe my expectations would have been in check and in turn, I would have been happier with what I got.
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Anyone that has this, not matter the ad, what you get, etc. will you use it? Not play with it, but carry it in your pocket, take it out and use it?

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Zombie-pleasure to converse with you! Your reviews and insights have helped tremendously so hopefully mine will return the favor! I'm trying to be fair in my posts despite the copy issue so hope it helps.

Anyway, this is indeed something you can have in your pocket and with a couple of seconds of set up, be ready to go. This is true regardless of the ad copy (I also mentioned it in my original post for those just catching up).

I'm at my sons swim practice right now and just doing it casually for no one in particular as I sit in the bleachers. I'm getting some double takes which I think is how this effect works best. When its unexpected, and someone just happens to see you doing it.....and before they know its over. Life goes on but they kind of scratch their heads for a bit.
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On 2013-09-07 14:57, PendletonThe3rd wrote:

I'm at my sons swim practice right now and just doing it casually for no one in particular as I sit in the bleachers. I'm getting some double takes which I think is how this effect works best. When its unexpected, and someone just happens to see you doing it.....and before they know its over. Life goes on but they kind of scratch their heads for a bit.


PendletonThe3rd, thank you very much for your patience in answering questions. The scenario at your son's swim meet is exactly the way I just do a coin roll and of course it can spark a conversation ( without any magic being performed ).

It would be great to make a small, silent, rotuine with the chip. Coin(chip) roll...mesiah vanish/re-appearance....chip spining and you're done.

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Hi
Thanks for your comments...
No all that you use in your finger is TT. Sample BW or NW (Mentalism props)These not are TT. Magnet Ring no is TT. SO THe gimmick for perform the Frye Chip is not FALSE FINGER ot TT...I´m very honest with it.

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Martin
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On 2013-09-07 16:09, Martín Pacheco wrote:
Hi
Thanks for your comments...
No all that you use in your finger is TT. Sample BW or NW (Mentalism props)These not are TT. Magnet Ring no is TT. SO THe gimmick for perform the Frye Chip is not FALSE FINGER ot TT...I´m very honest with it.

Thanks

Martin


I get what you mean. I think most people get it. There's really only one way something like this could work. Sounds like a great effect.
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Pendleton, is this part of the ad accurate?
"When you're inches away, the secret of the stunt is impossible to detect... It looks perfect from all angles and can be done surrounded."

This was the part (more than the gimmick) that interested me. Especially the "inches away" and "all angles."

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