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paisa23 Inner circle 7293 Posts |
I am part of the café as well as other social media that caters to magic and magicians. Now I am a bit more of a hobbyist and have been on and off pro since I was 17(NOW 34). My confusion has always been theft. I don't mean right out stealing someone's set or show. WHICH I HAVE SEEN MANY DO. But more or less the ethics or creativity of effects. When does performing a sold product breaking this law? I mean unless otherwise stated on the case (DVD) or in writing, isn't a product yours to do as you please after you have purchased it? Why do so many people complain when they see one of OUR own performing a marketed effect on TV or YouTube or even busking on the street. I read from time to time creators getting upset when they see others performing there products. I guess I am just lost in translation. Now this is in no regards to me but more or less something I was reading this weekend. Any clarity on this would be greatly appreciated.
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neemdog Loyal user 231 Posts |
Just to share the little bit that I know--certain tricks have specific copyrights on them. For example, Matthieu Bich's Spreadwave 2.0 is not allowed to be performed on television without his permission.
I think it was Aaron Fisher who made me realize that not all magicians are creators--we depend on creators to develop tricks and routines with strong structures that we can add our own unique and interesting presentations to. Maybe the creators are getting upset because people are performing their ideas poorly. Still, if there's no copyright, the whole point of buying magic is to perform it! |
ed rhodes Inner circle Rhode Island 2885 Posts |
I can't understand the idea that a creator would sell something without the product being utilized. Are we supposed to practice it in the privicy of our own rooms and then put it away, never to be seen? If you sell something, unless otherwise stipulated, you've sold the performing rights as well. (Obviously, Mr. Bich has set up just such a stipulation.)
"...and if you're too afraid of goin' astray, you won't go anywhere." - Granny Weatherwax
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Mr. Mystoffelees Inner circle I haven't changed anyone's opinion in 3623 Posts |
At the point of sale, any and all caveats and limitations must be clearly expressed as a condition of sale by the seller. The buyer purchases with those stipulations as a condition of sale, and has an obligation to abide by this "sales and purchase agreement". Subsequently, the seller can not augment or change the agreement . As with most things, there exist exceptions and common sense. The buyer generally can not, for example, decide to remarker the purchase using the same name and advertising, etc. But then, what do I know, I am an exterminator...
Also known, when doing rope magic, as "Cordini"
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